[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Gaudapada and Shankara say: the world is imagined by the jiva through avidya

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms Sri Subbu prabhuji
Hare Krishna

I hope you can understand Kannada which I have typed in English 😊 vikalpavellavannu brahma tattvavAgiye tiLidu kollabeku emba maatinalli dvaitavaagi vikalpadinda kaaNuttiruvudannu ‘ekarUpavaagi’ brahma tattvavAgi tilidu kola beku endu baayibittu heluttiddare Sri SSS adannu tiruchi neevu nimmade arthavannu aa vakyagaLalli tumbuttiddira…I cannot help it but to stop this discussion with you.  Anyway final attempt from my side what Sri SSS said in Kannada :


  1.  ‘kArya-kAraNa bhAvavu ‘nijavaagi brahmave ( the ‘bhAva’ if kArya-kAraNa in reality brahman only)
  2.  ‘avidyAdrushtiyinda namma munde enenu kaaNisuttiruvadO edellavu brahmave’ ( those which you are cognizing in front of you as dvaita in reality it is brahman only)
  3.  ‘hindiruvudu brahmave, balakku, edakku, mele, keelage  ellavu varishTavAda brahmave’ ( behind, front, right, left, top bottom all these are supreme brahman only (varishTa brahma)
  4.  ‘.  Brahmavallavendu naavu ariyuvudellavu haggadalliruva haavinarivinante avidyeyindaada vikalpa maatrave’ ( that which we are perceiving deciding as NOT brahman (abrahma vastu / anAtma vastu) is due to avidyA vikalpa like wrongly ‘seeing’ the snake in place of rope)
  5.  OLage deha, indriya, manassu muntaagi kANuva AdhyAtmika vikalpavellavannu ‘paramAtma tattvave endu aritukoLLabeku, horage kaaNuttiruva pruthivAdi vikalpagaLannu tattvavende kaNdukOllabeku ( those which are residing inside and those which are existing outside everything needs to be understood ‘paramArtha tattva only)


Compare these with what you are interpreting as Sri SSS’s perspective.  Please note I am not denying the meaning of vikalpa here but I am quoting Sri SSS how he is telling us that those vikalpa-s should be understood as ekatatva (tattva / varishTa brahma) and seeing the duality in it is like seeing the sarpa in rajju.  With this I rest my case.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar