[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Tue Nov 14 08:40:49 EST 2023


Namaste Sudhnshu Ji,

Thanks for the clarifications. I am not familiar with the tIkA on Samkshepa
SharIraka by Sri MS you have mentioned. But I have not come across Sri MS
taking a similar stand in any of his works like AS, SB etc.

Reg  //  My point is only this. Neither DSV nor SDV can take one to Moksha.
For they are within the vivarta-vAda which maintains the
prapancha-bhramatva //,

This is certainly alien to the Bhashya. Since I understand Advaita SidhAnta
through the Bhashya, such a stand does not appeal to me.

Regards

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On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:03 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouli ji,
>
> The TIkA by MS on sankshepa shArIraka 2.82 to 2.85 may be perused. Here,
> the text classifies three drishTi, pariNAma-drishTi, vivarta-drishTi and
> antyA-drishTi. It says that one attains Moksha through antyA-drishTi by
> sequentially sublimating the earlier drishTi.
>
> MS bifurcates vivarta-drishTi in two parts, nAnA-jIva and one-jIva which
> is what SDV and DSV are respectively. He categorically states that
> vivarta-drishTi is incapable of leading one to Moksha. I quote from 2.82 -
> तत्त्वक्षति: प्रपञ्चसत्यत्वक्षतिकरी या विवर्तदृष्टि: सा मध्यमा,
> ब्रह्मविचाराद्यधीन विवर्तदृष्टेः विवेकादिमत् पुरुषाश्रायत्वात् परम्परया
> मोक्षोपयोगित्वात् आत्मविषयत्वात् च सा पूर्वदृष्ट्यपेक्षया उत्तमा, तावत्या
> #द्वैतोपशान्त्यसम्भवाद्# द्वैतोपशान्त्यपेक्षया जघन्या इति मध्यमा इति
> अर्थः।.....विवर्तदृष्टेरपि जीवैकत्व नानात्व विषयतया द्वैविध्यम् आह ...
>
> //This implies that as per Sri MS,  all the prakriyAs lead to the same
> Goal. There is no difference in the status of the sAdhaka who reaches the
> Goal through whichever prakriyA. Your contention appears to imply that the
> status is different depending upon whether SDV or DSV or AjAtivAda is
> followed by the sAdhaka.//
>
> Whether it is pariNAma-vAda or vivarta-vAda (which includes SDV and DSV),
> they are useful in so far as they sequentially take one to antyA-drishTi.
>
> antyA-drishTi is apavAda-drishTi. However, to reach there, one has to
> necessarily sequentially pass through SDV and DSV. Since, DSV is just a
> step short to antyA-drishTi, it is the most superior. In antyA-drishTi,
> there is apavAda, basically ajAtivAda.
>
> My point is only this. Neither DSV nor SDV can take one to Moksha. For
> they are within the vivarta-vAda which maintains the prapancha-bhramatva.
>
> It is only the antyA-drishTi, the ajAtivAda which is the truth. I would
> request to kindly peruse 2.82 to 2.85 TIkA. I cannot find any soft copy. I
> have the Hindi translation and reproducing the Sanskrit here will take time.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
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