[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Chandramouli ji.

Pl peruse 2.82 onwards .. I found it in line with bhAshya and
Advaita-siddhi.

On Tue, 14 Nov, 2023, 7:11 pm H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sudhnshu Ji,
>
> Thanks for the clarifications. I am not familiar with the tIkA on
> Samkshepa SharIraka by Sri MS you have mentioned. But I have not come
> across Sri MS taking a similar stand in any of his works like AS, SB etc.
>
> Reg  //  My point is only this. Neither DSV nor SDV can take one to
> Moksha. For they are within the vivarta-vAda which maintains the
> prapancha-bhramatva //,
>
> This is certainly alien to the Bhashya. Since I understand Advaita
> SidhAnta through the Bhashya, such a stand does not appeal to me.
>
> Regards
>
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> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:03 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Chandramouli ji,
>>
>> The TIkA by MS on sankshepa shArIraka 2.82 to 2.85 may be perused. Here,
>> the text classifies three drishTi, pariNAma-drishTi, vivarta-drishTi and
>> antyA-drishTi. It says that one attains Moksha through antyA-drishTi by
>> sequentially sublimating the earlier drishTi.
>>
>> MS bifurcates vivarta-drishTi in two parts, nAnA-jIva and one-jIva which
>> is what SDV and DSV are respectively. He categorically states that
>> vivarta-drishTi is incapable of leading one to Moksha. I quote from 2.82 -
>> तत्त्वक्षति: प्रपञ्चसत्यत्वक्षतिकरी या विवर्तदृष्टि: सा मध्यमा,
>> ब्रह्मविचाराद्यधीन विवर्तदृष्टेः विवेकादिमत् पुरुषाश्रायत्वात् परम्परया
>> मोक्षोपयोगित्वात् आत्मविषयत्वात् च सा पूर्वदृष्ट्यपेक्षया उत्तमा, तावत्या
>> #द्वैतोपशान्त्यसम्भवाद्# द्वैतोपशान्त्यपेक्षया जघन्या इति मध्यमा इति
>> अर्थः।.....विवर्तदृष्टेरपि जीवैकत्व नानात्व विषयतया द्वैविध्यम् आह ...
>>
>> //This implies that as per Sri MS,  all the prakriyAs lead to the same
>> Goal. There is no difference in the status of the sAdhaka who reaches the
>> Goal through whichever prakriyA. Your contention appears to imply that the
>> status is different depending upon whether SDV or DSV or AjAtivAda is
>> followed by the sAdhaka.//
>>
>> Whether it is pariNAma-vAda or vivarta-vAda (which includes SDV and DSV),
>> they are useful in so far as they sequentially take one to antyA-drishTi.
>>
>> antyA-drishTi is apavAda-drishTi. However, to reach there, one has to
>> necessarily sequentially pass through SDV and DSV. Since, DSV is just a
>> step short to antyA-drishTi, it is the most superior. In antyA-drishTi,
>> there is apavAda, basically ajAtivAda.
>>
>> My point is only this. Neither DSV nor SDV can take one to Moksha. For
>> they are within the vivarta-vAda which maintains the prapancha-bhramatva.
>>
>> It is only the antyA-drishTi, the ajAtivAda which is the truth. I would
>> request to kindly peruse 2.82 to 2.85 TIkA. I cannot find any soft copy. I
>> have the Hindi translation and reproducing the Sanskrit here will take time.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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