[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Does the mukta/jnani see the world?

[Bhaskar YR]

praNAms Sri Raghava prabhuji
Hare Krishna

In EJV, the experience of Guru and sAmpradAya are regarded as necessary but they are given pratibhasika status like the dream tiger example.

>  I am sorry I failed to understand this prAtibhAsika satyatvaM in EJV and role of intellectual conviction of this eka jeeva in the 'practical' Advaita jnana sAdhana.  Can we approach shankara's PTB with utmost reverence when we are having the dubious opinion that after all this shankara, shruti and all jnana bOdhaka vAkya-s are just my own dream's tiger??  Don’t we tempted to have some sort of complacency when doing traditionally prescribed sAdhana??  What is that so special in EJV and DSV and what's its significance in the Advaita sAdhana??  How this theory and intellectual conviction of this theory would help me to do my sAdhana effectively with utmost reverence to my guru-Acharya-saMpradAya and veda prescribed rituals??  If this knowledge is a complete zero in my Advaita sAdhana and a hindrance to me to have shraddha, bhakti in guru-shishya sampradaya, importance of sampradaya and sAmpradAyik teaching, why at all I should entertain it??  How can I develop Ishwara bhakti, sharaNaagati pray for Ishwara kAruNya when I have the notion that these things are just bla..bla..bla..holds water ONLY in DSV and when I elevate myself are qualified myself to DSV these things are just bhrAnti...Can any sane person run after water to quench his thrust even after realizing it is mere mirage??  I don’t think so.  

Personally I am comfortable with DSV as a nididhyAsana-predominant approach rather than as something to assert in public.

>  Yes it is not there to assert in public (infact not worthy to assert within the tradition when mumukshu trying to engage himself in jnana sAdhana by considering his guru as sAkshAt brahman).  IMHO, theories like this when serving no substantial purpose in practical sAdhana better to be ignored because of the simple fact that our minds are tuned in a such a way that it always tries to find exceptions / excuses not to take anything seriously or in its own stride.   I reckon theories like DSV would tempt us to have that type of leniency.  In short, in sAdhana mArga, SDV is more feasible or a realistic practical approach for our AtmOnnati and I firmly believe most of the sAdhana /means are based on SDV only and DSV is just a theory.  

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar