[Advaita-l] There is no bondage for the Trimurtis - Padmapurana

[V Subrahmanian]

Dear Raghav ji,

You are right. But the position of Brahmaa, Hiranyagarbha, in the Bhashya
points to an exalted jiva. But Sureshwaracharya in the Vartika has said
that one Anataryami alone is known by the three names: Hari, Brahma and
Pinaaki.Shanka, in the VSN bhashya, citing the Vishnu Purana, accepts the
Trimurti = Brahman idea.

warm regards
subbu



On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 8:00 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Subbu ji
> There was the earlier discussion on the question of whether the trimUrtis
> exalted jIvas or direct manifestations of Ishvara with no prior jIva
> embodiment.
>
> If I recollect, it was indicated that while the aspects of Shiva and Vishnu
> were definitely never connected with any earlier jIva embodiment, the
> status of brahmA rather asymmetrically was relegated to that of an exalted
> jIva.
>
>  To reconcile with references like the one equating the trimUrtis, it was
> mentioned that the word brahmA can be understood in both ways viz., an
> eternal aspect of Ishvara the kAraNa brahman who wields  the creative
> power, and also in a "lower" different manifestation as a special jIva, at
> the beginning of each kalpa, who is also termed brahmA (hiraNyagarbha)
> through whom that creative power is finally wielded.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct, 2023, 4:42 pm V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > In this chapter Paramashiva says:
> > पद्मपुराणम्/खण्डः १ (सृष्टिखण्डम्)/अध्यायः ७८
> > https://sa.wikisource.org/s/y6c
> > <
> >
> https://sa.wikisource.org/s/y6c?fbclid=IwAR1aVfxmMgFXqYD_wg3YMZmIIhBE9gVf5qM6a3OcaQ2vSjbA4A_WuxEBoVY
> > >
> >
> > शिव उवाच-
> > लोकानां च हितार्थाय पृथग्भूता युगे युगे।
> > सर्वं कुर्मो वयं पुत्र ब्रह्मविष्णुमहेश्वराः२०।
> > *नास्माकं बंधमोक्षौ च नाकार्यं कार्यमेव वा।*
> > तथा लोकस्य रक्षार्थं चरामो विधिपूर्वकम्२१।
> >
> > In every era we the Trimurtis do all the work separately for the welfare
> of
> > the world. There is neither bondage nor liberation for us. And there is
> no
> > enjoined or prohibited karma for us.
> > From this statement it is clear that there is no real difference in the
> > Trimurtis. And it is also known that none of the three is a jiva.
> > Om
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