[Advaita-l] [advaitin] SSSS on the controversy between mulav7idya and abhavarupa - directly and simply explained as per SSSS

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 01:58:22 EDT 2024


On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:16 AM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

> praNAms
>
> Hare Krishna
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> It is not just about the word mUlAvidyA, Sri SSS’s contention is about
> usage of this term and definition of it in vyAkhyAna-s (panchapAdika
> vivaraNa in particular).  Just coz. nirvana used in kArika it is not
> Buddhistic text, likewise just coz. MV used in up. It is not
> vyAkhyAnakAra’s MV
>


Then, what would the non-vyakhyanakara's meaning be for the Upanishadic
term?

regards
subbu



> 😊 If that is not the case, Sri SSS somewhere jokingly says in Kannada :
> haladi seere uttikondiruvavarella nanna hendati unda haage 😊
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> bhaskar
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> *BHASKAR YR*
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> त्रिपाद्विभूतिमहानारायणोपनिषत्
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> https://sa.wikisource.org/s/1s82
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> This Upanishad, listed in the 108 of the Muktika upanishad, has at least
> 10 occurrences of the term mUlAvidyA.  The Upanishad has the commentary of
> an Advaitin Upanishad Brahma Yogin.
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> https://archive.org/details/108_Upanishads_with_Sanskrit_Commentary_of_Upanishad_Brahma_Yogin/Dasonapanishads%20with%20Upanishadbrahman%27s%20commentary%20Vol%201/
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 9:37 AM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> praNAms Sri MCC prabhuji
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> Hare Krishna
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> Swami Prabuddhanandaji is a 50+ year disciple of Swami Chinmayananndaji.
> He has also studied with Dayanandaji and more recently, SSSSji.
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>    - Sri Prakashanandendra Saraswati was also earlier with Arsha vidya I
>    think.  Now teaching Sri SSS’s Shuddha shankara Vedanta at Holenarsipur.
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> He has been giving talks at .Ramana Kendra, New Delhi for decades. Swamiji
> is a master teacher and advocate of SSSS recognition of Prasthanatraya
> Bhasya.
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> Ø     Interesting fact about bhAvarUpa avidyA and it’s refutation,  has
> been accepted by other pundits ‘as it is’ even though they are not so good
> friend of Sri SSS’s works.  mUlAvidyA is a fabricated theory by later
> advaitins just to counter the objections of dualists and it hardly finds a
> place in shankara’s mUla PTB.
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>
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> Here he is in his prime, discussing silver/shell and one/two moons from
> Adhyasa Bhasya (first 30 min) comparing mulavidvya with abhavarupa avidya
> in a simple easy-to-understand manner as claimed to be the way
> Sankaracharya originally intended.
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> Ø     Simple easy way !!??  who needs it or who cares it ??  Who needs
> ‘anubhava sammata svAbhAvika adhyAsa’  when they have the big-big
> nomenclatures to define and defend bhAvarUpa, brahmAshrita, anirvachaneeya
> avidyA??  They want to add all types of ‘masala’ to it to have it in a more
> attractive way to construct logical theories around it 😊 Sri SSS very
> often says in all through his works : shankara Vedanta is anubhava sammata,
> shrutyukta vedAnta it is not a product of shushka tarka which neither has
> the backdrop of shruti, shrutyukta yukti and anubhava,
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>    - I really appreciate your patience to pacify the needs of some tyros
>    here and trying to prove credentials of Sri SSS in front of those who left
>    and right passing their adolescent  judgements on saint who dedicated more
>    than 6 decades exclusively in the study of Shuddha shankara vedAnta
>    prakriya viz a viz later vyAkhyAna-s.  Fortunately, Sri SSS when he openly
>    challenged the stand of vyAkhyAnakAra-s then, no one dared to say:  Sorry
>    you don’t know nyAya, you have not understood basic tenets of shankara
>    Vedanta, intentions of subsequent vyAkhyAna etc. so you are not qualified
>    enough to debate with pundita-s like us.  OTOH, after reading Sri SSS’s
>    objections they sincerely tried to defend their position.  Hardly Sri SSS
>    encountered ‘childish’ attacks like this during his time.  Of course they
>    were all well mannered traditional scholars know how to respect a saint and
>    scholar in tradition, and more importantly they were not just armchair
>    philosophers like us.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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> bhaskar
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