[Advaita-l] [advaitin] A few fundamental questions to the followers of Shri Swami Satchidanandendra Saraswati Ji
Michael Chandra Cohen
michaelchandra108 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 30 10:25:01 EDT 2024
Namaste Sudhanshuji,
Prof. Keralapuraji comment was in response to your post dated, Feb 5,
2022, below. This was your response to Prof. K - same as to Prasanth Neti,
ji.
//Sudhanshu Shekhar
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Ramanatha Keralapura
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ji. I will respond in detail later. Appreciate your writeup. Just a quick
question. SSS says that dvaita being non-vastu owing to being magical has
no requirement of upAdAna-kAraNa. My point is -- then which entity has
requirement of upAdAna-kAraNa?//
and your original post:
अस्य द्वैतेन्द्रजालस्य यदुपादानकारणम्।
अज्ञानं तदुपाश्रित्य ब्रह्मकारणमुच्यते।।
(BrihadAraNyaka BhAshya VArtika by SureshwarAchArya)
In this important shloka which is quoted by several AchAryAs of advaita
tradition including NeelakaNtha, SureshwarAchArya states the following:-
The material cause of this magical duality is ajnAna. Brahman is said to be
cause on account of the superimposition of that ajnAna (in Brahman).
The usage of the word material cause is significant. First of all, it
clarifies the material nature of ajnAna. Just as world is triguNAtmaka,
similarly its material cause ajnAna, is also triguNAtmaka. It is not asat
like horns of hare. Further, being material cause, it is not immutable and
hence it is not sat either.
Accordingly, the material cause of this magical duality is triguNAtmaka
ajnAna which is neither sat nor asat.
AdhyAsa, being the kArya of ajnAna, cannot be material cause. It is an
effect of its material cause ajnAna. Just as sometimes kArya is referred by
kAraNa - adhyAsa is also called as ajnAna. For e.g. a jeweller can refer to
his stock of ornaments in terms of kilos of gold. But that does not mean
that gold and ornament are one and the same. Similarly one needs to
understand in case of ajnAna and adhyAsa.
It is a remarkable shloka and due deliberation is needed on this
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:33 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Namaste Michael ji.
>
> I think I must have responded to Keralapura Ji's comments in FB when he
> would have posted that. If not, then I will respond to that.
>
> Also, regarding Prasanth Ji's post, it is a huge thing. I will need to
> find time to first summarise it and then respond. Will do it sometime when
> there is enough motivation to do that in lieu of something more beneficial.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, 18:15 Michael Chandra Cohen, <
> michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Sudhanshuji, I applaud your effort to structure these
>> conversations. However, kindly respond in kind to Prasanth Netiji and Dr.
>> Keralpuraji's previous arguments..
>>
>> warm regards, mcc
>>
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