[Advaita-l] [advaitin] A few fundamental questions to the followers of Shri Swami Satchidanandendra Saraswati Ji

Sudhanshu Shekhar sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com
Fri Aug 30 10:54:58 EDT 2024


Namaste Michael ji.

Noted. I will respond to Prof. Keralpura ji's comments.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 7:55 PM Michael Chandra Cohen <
michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshuji,
>  Prof. Keralapuraji comment was in response to your post dated, Feb 5,
> 2022, below. This was your response to Prof. K - same as to Prasanth Neti,
> ji.
>
> //Sudhanshu Shekhar
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> Author
> Ramanatha Keralapura
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>  ji. I will respond in detail later. Appreciate your writeup. Just a
> quick question. SSS says that dvaita being non-vastu owing to being magical
> has no requirement of upAdAna-kAraNa. My point is -- then which entity has
> requirement of upAdAna-kAraNa?//
>
> and your original post:
>
> अस्य द्वैतेन्द्रजालस्य यदुपादानकारणम्।
> अज्ञानं तदुपाश्रित्य ब्रह्मकारणमुच्यते।।
> (BrihadAraNyaka BhAshya VArtika by SureshwarAchArya)
> In this important shloka which is quoted by several AchAryAs of advaita
> tradition including NeelakaNtha, SureshwarAchArya states the following:-
> The material cause of this magical duality is ajnAna. Brahman is said to
> be cause on account of the superimposition of that ajnAna (in Brahman).
> The usage of the word material cause is significant. First of all, it
> clarifies the material nature of ajnAna. Just as world is triguNAtmaka,
> similarly its material cause ajnAna, is also triguNAtmaka. It is not asat
> like horns of hare. Further, being material cause, it is not immutable and
> hence it is not sat either.
> Accordingly, the material cause of this magical duality is triguNAtmaka
> ajnAna which is neither sat nor asat.
> AdhyAsa, being the kArya of ajnAna, cannot be material cause. It is an
> effect of its material cause ajnAna. Just as sometimes kArya is referred by
> kAraNa - adhyAsa is also called as ajnAna. For e.g. a jeweller can refer to
> his stock of ornaments in terms of kilos of gold. But that does not mean
> that gold and ornament are one and the same. Similarly one needs to
> understand in case of ajnAna and adhyAsa.
> It is a remarkable shloka and due deliberation is needed on this
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:33 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Michael ji.
>>
>> I think I must have responded to Keralapura Ji's comments in FB when he
>> would have posted that. If not, then I will respond to that.
>>
>> Also, regarding Prasanth Ji's post, it is a huge thing. I will need to
>> find time to first summarise it and then respond. Will do it sometime when
>> there is enough motivation to do that in lieu of something more beneficial.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024, 18:15 Michael Chandra Cohen, <
>> michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste Sudhanshuji, I applaud your effort to structure these
>>> conversations. However, kindly respond in kind to Prasanth Netiji and Dr.
>>> Keralpuraji's previous arguments..
>>>
>>> warm regards, mcc
>>>
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