[Advaita-l] jivanmukti & Lord Rama query

[Kaushik Chevendra]

Namaste.
Rama was not a jivan Muktha. He is Parameshwara. Bhagavan explained this in
Gita saying that he appears on earth as human in order to establish dharma
however he never loses his knowledge of being Parameshwara. This is what
Shankaracharya explained in his Geeta bhasya. So it’s generally called
“Leela”, it is hard to determine why bagavan does an action. Lord when he
took avatara as Krishna he cried when he was told his father passed away
which was a lie. He being the sarva antaryami knew that it was a lie yet he
still cries, why? No one knows.
My personal suggestion regarding Bhagavans Leela is that it is not possible
to understand his actions. All we can do is worship him that’s all. Hope
this helps
Namo Narayana

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 2:00 PM, aham brahmaasmi via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> नमो विद्वत्सभायै !
>
> I have heard that Lord Rama, on hearing about Sitamata's abduction, was so
> 'shokaakula' (grief-stricken), that He went around asking the trees,
> streams , birds of her whereabouts.   Also, that he also even contemplated
> suicide.  I have read this in a couple of places, also mentioned in ? one
> of the puranas (via  Parampujya Swami Ishwarananda Giri maharaj's talk).
>
>  Lord Rama was an avatar-purusha, and as per yoga-vasishtha, displayed very
> high SCS, vairagyam etc. even at age 12-13. He got instructed in
> Brahmavidya soon after, which clearly makes him a jnani ( in addition to
> avatar purusha. ).
>
> So my questions are
>
> 1)  what is jivanmukti then? If someone like Lord Rama could get this
> affected, (to even contemplate suicide), what to say about ordinary
> individuals like me ?  *Yet,* on the other hand, my Guru, and all mahatmas
> too probably,  emphatically reiterate that it is possible  to get
> jivanmukti in this very janma.
>
> 2) And how can Lord Rama's above-stated response (IF it is correct), be
> reconciled with BG  'gurNApi dukhena na vichAlyate' ?
>
> I am sorry I am unable to trace the exact video, but it is  one of Swami
> Ishwarananda Giriji's
> https://www.youtube.com/@SamvitDarshanRRC
>
> Most importantly, this is only a *very sincere question* that has bothered
> me for very long.
>
> thanks in advance, for your replies,
> sakshi
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