[Advaita-l] [advaitin] jivanmukti & Lord Rama query

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste,
The answer to this question reminds me of the "loke vihara rAghava" verses
from Yoga Vashishtha -

पूर्णां दृष्टिमवष्टभ्य ध्येयत्यागविलासिनीम् ।
जीवन्मुक्ततया स्वस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। १७
अन्तः संत्यक्तसर्वाशो वीतरागो विवासनः ।
बहिः सर्वसमाचारो लोके विहर राघव ।। १८
उदारः पेशलाचारः सर्वाचारानुवृत्तिमान् ।
अन्तः सर्वपरित्यागी लोके विहर राघव ।। १९
प्रविचार्य दशाः सर्वा यदतुच्छं परं पदम् ।
तदेव भावेनालम्ब्य लोके विहर राघव ।। २०
*अन्तर्नैराश्यमादाय बहिराशोन्मुखेहितः ।*
*बहिस्तप्तोऽन्तराशीतो लोके विहर राघव ।। २१*
बहिः कृत्रिमसंरम्भो हृदि संरम्भवर्जितः ।
कर्ता बहिरकर्तान्तर्लोके विहर राघव ।। २२
ज्ञातवानसि सर्वेषां भावानां सम्यगन्तरम् ।
यथेच्छसि तथा दृष्ट्या लोके विहर राघव ।। २३
कृत्रिमोल्लासहर्षस्थः कृत्रिमोद्वेगगर्हणः ।
कृत्रिमारम्भसंरम्भो लोके विहर राघव ।। २४
त्यक्ताहंकृतिराश्वस्तमतिराकाशशोभनः ।
अगृहीतकलङ्काङ्को लोके विहर राघव ।। २५
आशापाशशतोन्मुक्तः समः सर्वासु वृत्तिषु ।
बहिः प्रकृतिकार्यस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। २६

Kind regards,
Venkatraghavan

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, 16:23 aham brahmaasmi, <ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> नमो विद्वत्सभायै !
>
> I have heard that Lord Rama, on hearing about Sitamata's abduction, was so
> 'shokaakula' (grief-stricken), that He went around asking the trees,
> streams , birds of her whereabouts.   Also, that he also even contemplated
> suicide.  I have read this in a couple of places, also mentioned in ? one
> of the puranas (via  Parampujya Swami Ishwarananda Giri maharaj's talk).
>
>  Lord Rama was an avatar-purusha, and as per yoga-vasishtha, displayed
> very high SCS, vairagyam etc. even at age 12-13. He got instructed in
> Brahmavidya soon after, which clearly makes him a jnani ( in addition to
> avatar purusha. ).
>
> So my questions are
>
> 1)  what is jivanmukti then? If someone like Lord Rama could get this
> affected, (to even contemplate suicide), what to say about ordinary
> individuals like me ?  *Yet,* on the other hand, my Guru, and all
> mahatmas too probably,  emphatically reiterate that it is possible  to get
> jivanmukti in this very janma.
>
> 2) And how can Lord Rama's above-stated response (IF it is correct), be
> reconciled with BG  'gurNApi dukhena na vichAlyate' ?
>
> I am sorry I am unable to trace the exact video, but it is  one of Swami
> Ishwarananda Giriji's
> https://www.youtube.com/@SamvitDarshanRRC
>
> Most importantly, this is only a *very sincere question* that has
> bothered me for very long.
>
> thanks in advance, for your replies,
> sakshi
>
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