[Advaita-l] [advaitin] jivanmukti & Lord Rama query

[V Subrahmanian]

In the Srimadbhagavatam, there is a short summary of the Ramayana: There
Shukha Maharshi says:  Rama went about showing to the world the miserable
state of a man who is associated with a woman.

Text 11: <https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/9/10/11/> When Rāmacandra
entered the forest and Lakṣmaṇa was also absent, the worst of the Rākṣasas,
Rāvaṇa, kidnapped Sītādevī, the daughter of the King of Videha, just as a
tiger seizes unprotected sheep when the shepherd is absent. *Then Lord
Rāmacandra wandered in the forest with His brother Lakṣmaṇa as if very much
distressed due to separation from His wife. Thus He showed by His personal
example the condition of a person attached to women.*


*SB 9.10.11*
रक्षोऽधमेन वृकवद् विपिनेऽसमक्षं
वैदेहराजदुहितर्यपयापितायाम् ।
भ्रात्रा वने कृपणवत् प्रियया वियुक्त:
*स्त्रीसङ्गिनां गतिमिति प्रथयंश्चचार *॥ ११ ॥
regards
subbu

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 1:12 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Venkat ji
> These are quite remarkable verses from the yogavAshiShTha. Sri Ramana
> Maharshi used to often quote three of them to illustrate how a jIvanmukti
> conducts his life.
>
>
> jñātvānasi sarveṣāṃ bhāvānāṃ samyaganvaram |
> yathēcchasi tathā dṛṣṭyā lōkē vihara rāghava ||
>
> "You have perfectly understood the inner nature of all things.
> Now, see the world as you wish, and roam in it, O Raghava."
>
>
>
> kṛtrimollāsa-harṣasthaḥ kṛtrimodvēga-garhaṇaḥ |
> kṛtrimārambha-saṃrambho
>  lōkē vihara rāghava ||
>
> "Remain in the world, O Raghava, with artificial (or pretended) joy and
> delight, artificial (or pretended) anger and criticism, and artificial (or
> pretended) enthusiasm and excitement."
>
> (The keyword is "kRtrima".)
>
>
>
> āśāpāśaśatonmuktaḥ samaḥ sarvāsu vṛttiṣu |
> bahih prakṛtikāryastho lōkē vihara rāghava ||
>
> Free from hundreds of desires and bondages, remain equanimous in all
> situations.
> Externally engaged in worldly activities, yet internally untouched, thus
> roam in the world, O Raghava."
>
> Sri Rama's grief etc., was merely  "kRtrima" (lit. artifice, "as though").
>
> These 3 verses from the Yoga Vashishtha were included in Sri Ramana
> Maharshi's compliation named "sUkti-sudhA" (or uLLadu nArpadu anubandham in
> Tamil).
>
>
> Om
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec, 2024, 11:50 am Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste,
> > The answer to this question reminds me of the "loke vihara rAghava"
> verses
> > from Yoga Vashishtha -
> >
> > पूर्णां दृष्टिमवष्टभ्य ध्येयत्यागविलासिनीम् ।
> > जीवन्मुक्ततया स्वस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। १७
> > अन्तः संत्यक्तसर्वाशो वीतरागो विवासनः ।
> > बहिः सर्वसमाचारो लोके विहर राघव ।। १८
> > उदारः पेशलाचारः सर्वाचारानुवृत्तिमान् ।
> > अन्तः सर्वपरित्यागी लोके विहर राघव ।। १९
> > प्रविचार्य दशाः सर्वा यदतुच्छं परं पदम् ।
> > तदेव भावेनालम्ब्य लोके विहर राघव ।। २०
> > *अन्तर्नैराश्यमादाय बहिराशोन्मुखेहितः ।*
> > *बहिस्तप्तोऽन्तराशीतो लोके विहर राघव ।। २१*
> > बहिः कृत्रिमसंरम्भो हृदि संरम्भवर्जितः ।
> > कर्ता बहिरकर्तान्तर्लोके विहर राघव ।। २२
> > ज्ञातवानसि सर्वेषां भावानां सम्यगन्तरम् ।
> > यथेच्छसि तथा दृष्ट्या लोके विहर राघव ।। २३
> > कृत्रिमोल्लासहर्षस्थः कृत्रिमोद्वेगगर्हणः ।
> > कृत्रिमारम्भसंरम्भो लोके विहर राघव ।। २४
> > त्यक्ताहंकृतिराश्वस्तमतिराकाशशोभनः ।
> > अगृहीतकलङ्काङ्को लोके विहर राघव ।। २५
> > आशापाशशतोन्मुक्तः समः सर्वासु वृत्तिषु ।
> > बहिः प्रकृतिकार्यस्थो लोके विहर राघव ।। २६
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, 16:23 aham brahmaasmi, <ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > नमो विद्वत्सभायै !
> > >
> > > I have heard that Lord Rama, on hearing about Sitamata's abduction, was
> > so
> > > 'shokaakula' (grief-stricken), that He went around asking the trees,
> > > streams , birds of her whereabouts.   Also, that he also even
> > contemplated
> > > suicide.  I have read this in a couple of places, also mentioned in ?
> one
> > > of the puranas (via  Parampujya Swami Ishwarananda Giri maharaj's
> talk).
> > >
> > >  Lord Rama was an avatar-purusha, and as per yoga-vasishtha, displayed
> > > very high SCS, vairagyam etc. even at age 12-13. He got instructed in
> > > Brahmavidya soon after, which clearly makes him a jnani ( in addition
> to
> > > avatar purusha. ).
> > >
> > > So my questions are
> > >
> > > 1)  what is jivanmukti then? If someone like Lord Rama could get this
> > > affected, (to even contemplate suicide), what to say about ordinary
> > > individuals like me ?  *Yet,* on the other hand, my Guru, and all
> > > mahatmas too probably,  emphatically reiterate that it is possible  to
> > get
> > > jivanmukti in this very janma.
> > >
> > > 2) And how can Lord Rama's above-stated response (IF it is correct), be
> > > reconciled with BG  'gurNApi dukhena na vichAlyate' ?
> > >
> > > I am sorry I am unable to trace the exact video, but it is  one of
> Swami
> > > Ishwarananda Giriji's
> > > https://www.youtube.com/@SamvitDarshanRRC
> > >
> > > Most importantly, this is only a *very sincere question* that has
> > > bothered me for very long.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance, for your replies,
> > > sakshi
> > >
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