[Advaita-l] Definition of Ashrayatva and Vishayatva

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Chandramouli ji,

Yes it would. Where is this quote from?

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024, 18:56 H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Venkat Ji,
>
> I thought the following would support Vichara Sagara view. Is that likely
> ??
>
> // अत्र हि मते जीवपदेन नान्त:करणविशिष्टं चैतन्यं विवच्यते ;
> अन्योन्याश्रयापत्तेः किन्तु स्वरूपचैतन्यमेव । तञ्च स्वरूपम्,
> अज्ञानाश्रयत्वेन जीव इति व्यवहारमाप्नोति आवृतत्वेन ब्रह्मचैतन्यमिति न
> जीवब्रह्मविवेकः । अस्मिंश्च मतेऽज्ञानावच्छिन्नं चैतन्यं जीवः । //.
> Regards
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:43 AM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Chandramouli ji
>>
>> Thank you for sharing the references. Again, very interesting aspects
>> brought out in the comments below by Dr Raja and Suryanarayana Shastri. The
>> natural question it leads to is who is Ishvara in the bhAmati system that
>> uses the ignorance located in the jIva to create the world. Some answers
>> are found in the references provided by Dr Raja and S. Shastri themselves.
>>
>> I checked the commentary to the Vedanta Paribhasha by Anantakrishna
>> Sastrigal and read what he has to say on the topic.
>>
>> He says that in the commentary to the siddhAntu bindu, brahmAnanda
>> sarasvatI says that the determining factor for what is the cause of the
>> universe is where ignorance resides, and on that basis, it is the jIva that
>> is the cause of the universe according to vAchaspati miSra - because he
>> (vAchaspati) holds that ignorance resides in the jIva.
>>
>> However, Anantakrishna Shastrigal goes on to say that the Kalapataru says
>> that according to vAchaspati miSra, Brahman is the cause of the universe.
>>
>> In support, he quotes a verse from the Kalpataru commentary to the
>> jagatvAcitva-adhikaraNam / bAlAkyadhikaraNam.
>>
>> The kalpatarukAra writes the following verse on the
>> phrase जगत्कर्तृत्वस्य च ब्रह्मणोऽन्यत्रासम्भवात् of the bhAmati -
>>
>> जगत्कर्तृत्वमन्यत्र ब्रह्मणो नेति दुष्यति। वाचस्पतावुपालम्भमनालोच्योचिरे
>> परे॥
>> जीवाज्जज्ञे जगत्सर्वं सकारणमिति ब्रुवन्।
>> क्षिपन् समन्वयं जीवे न लेजे वाक्पतिः कथम्?॥
>>
>> So, in vAchaspati's view, Brahman is the creator of the world even if
>> ignorance is located in the jIva.
>>
>> I don't think this is the support for the vichAra sAgara statement that
>> the intent of the bhAmatikAra is that Brahman is the locus of ignorance,
>> and it is notionally said to be located in the jIva on the basis of
>> something located in the visheShya is notionally said to be located in the
>> vishiShTa also.
>>
>> Regards
>> Venkatraghavan
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