[Advaita-l] Definition of Ashrayatva and Vishayatva

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Venkat Ji,

It is from page 3 of Sri Anantakrishna Shastri Ji's text only. Your quote
is from page 2.

Regards

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 5:20 PM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouli ji,
>
> Yes it would. Where is this quote from?
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024, 18:56 H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Venkat Ji,
>>
>> I thought the following would support Vichara Sagara view. Is that likely
>> ??
>>
>> // अत्र हि मते जीवपदेन नान्त:करणविशिष्टं चैतन्यं विवच्यते ;
>> अन्योन्याश्रयापत्तेः किन्तु स्वरूपचैतन्यमेव । तञ्च स्वरूपम्,
>> अज्ञानाश्रयत्वेन जीव इति व्यवहारमाप्नोति आवृतत्वेन ब्रह्मचैतन्यमिति न
>> जीवब्रह्मविवेकः । अस्मिंश्च मतेऽज्ञानावच्छिन्नं चैतन्यं जीवः । //.
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:43 AM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste Chandramouli ji
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing the references. Again, very interesting aspects
>>> brought out in the comments below by Dr Raja and Suryanarayana Shastri. The
>>> natural question it leads to is who is Ishvara in the bhAmati system that
>>> uses the ignorance located in the jIva to create the world. Some answers
>>> are found in the references provided by Dr Raja and S. Shastri themselves.
>>>
>>> I checked the commentary to the Vedanta Paribhasha by Anantakrishna
>>> Sastrigal and read what he has to say on the topic.
>>>
>>> He says that in the commentary to the siddhAntu bindu, brahmAnanda
>>> sarasvatI says that the determining factor for what is the cause of the
>>> universe is where ignorance resides, and on that basis, it is the jIva that
>>> is the cause of the universe according to vAchaspati miSra - because he
>>> (vAchaspati) holds that ignorance resides in the jIva.
>>>
>>> However, Anantakrishna Shastrigal goes on to say that the Kalapataru
>>> says that according to vAchaspati miSra, Brahman is the cause of the
>>> universe.
>>>
>>> In support, he quotes a verse from the Kalpataru commentary to the
>>> jagatvAcitva-adhikaraNam / bAlAkyadhikaraNam.
>>>
>>> The kalpatarukAra writes the following verse on the
>>> phrase जगत्कर्तृत्वस्य च ब्रह्मणोऽन्यत्रासम्भवात् of the bhAmati -
>>>
>>> जगत्कर्तृत्वमन्यत्र ब्रह्मणो नेति दुष्यति। वाचस्पतावुपालम्भमनालोच्योचिरे
>>> परे॥
>>> जीवाज्जज्ञे जगत्सर्वं सकारणमिति ब्रुवन्।
>>> क्षिपन् समन्वयं जीवे न लेजे वाक्पतिः कथम्?॥
>>>
>>> So, in vAchaspati's view, Brahman is the creator of the world even if
>>> ignorance is located in the jIva.
>>>
>>> I don't think this is the support for the vichAra sAgara statement that
>>> the intent of the bhAmatikAra is that Brahman is the locus of ignorance,
>>> and it is notionally said to be located in the jIva on the basis of
>>> something located in the visheShya is notionally said to be located in the
>>> vishiShTa also.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Venkatraghavan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>