[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [advaitin] Re: pratiyogI-jnAna being mandatory for abhAva-jnAna

[Venkatraghavan S]

The discussion is not about whether knowing C requires the knowledge of A
and B, it is whether the knowledge of the absence of C requires the prior
knowledge of C or not (pratiyogi jnAna being mandatory for abhAva jnAna).

Even if the knowledge of the absence of C required the prior knowledge of A
or B (it does), that still does not prove that it requires the prior
knowledge of C.

On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, 08:49 लोकेश, <lokeshh.sharma at gmail.com> wrote:

> C is definitely dependent on A and B, because no one can understand C,
> unless they understand what A and B are.
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2024, 8:11 AM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A correction. By ~C, I don't mean the absence of C, I meant to say "that
>> C is absent". That is, to know that C is absent/non-existent, knowing about
>> A or B is not relevant.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Venkatraghavan
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024, 08:00 Venkatraghavan S, <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste Ananta Chaitanya ji,
>>>
>>> Re
>>>
>>>> The pratiyogi of the context is made up of both
>>>> the objects of units of knowledge. The abhAva expressing na~n is going
>>>> with
>>>> the vishiShTa along with the visheShaNa.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think that is the case - the pratiyogi of the absence of hare's
>>> horn is neither the hare nor the horn.
>>>
>>> If A stands for hare and B stands for the horn, the hare's horn is
>>> not A∩B, but an independent entity C, so ~C (the absence of C) is not
>>> dependent on the knowledge of A and B.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Venkatraghavan
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind rgds,
>>>> --Ananta Chaitanya
>>>> /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one
>>>> know
>>>> That, owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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