[Advaita-l] Fwd: There is another logic for the non-applicability of the Vedas in the state of liberation.

[V Subrahmanian]

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There is another logic for the non-applicability of the Vedas in the state
of liberation.

In the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (4.3.22), it is stated:

"Here, a father becomes not a father; a mother, not a mother; worlds, not
worlds; gods, not gods; Vedas, not Vedas. Here, a thief becomes not a
thief; a murderer of an embryo, not a murderer; a Chandala, not a Chandala;
a Paulkasa, not a Paulkasa; a monk, not a monk; an ascetic, not an ascetic.
He is not followed by good, not followed by evil, for he has then crossed
beyond all sorrows of the heart."

Here, it is explained by the Veda itself that in sleep, as in liberation,
the Vedas do not apply due to the absence of an eligible person. In the
commentary on this, it is said:

"Similarly, the Vedas - which describe the relationship between means and
ends, and which are in the form of mantras that serve as parts of rituals
when recited, whether studied or to be studied - are connected to a person
only for the sake of rituals. At this time, when one transcends those
rituals, even the Vedas become non-Vedas."

This same idea is conveyed in the Bhagavad Gita, based on the words of the
Lord. For instance:

"The Vedas deal with the three gunas. Become free from the three gunas, O
Arjuna. Free yourself from the pairs of opposites, be ever balanced and
unconcerned about acquisitions and preservations. Be established in the
Sattva." (2.45)

In the commentary of Shankaracharya: "The Vedas have the three gunas as
their subject - they are meant to reveal the three gunas, which constitute
the world... Be ever established in sattva, always resorting to the quality
of sattva."

By this, while instructing that the karma section of the Vedas is to be
transcended by one desiring liberation, it is said that being established
in pure sattva is for the purpose of engaging in hearing (the scriptures)
etc., which are means to liberation. *From sattva arises knowledge.*