[Advaita-l] what is the technical definition of Drik in Advaita?

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Chandramouli ji.

The problem with shuddha chaitanya being drik is -- there is nothing to be
seen for shuddha chaitanya. And drik necessarily needs drishya. Because it
is the seer. It needs "seen" for its very definition.

Hence, drik has to be sAskhI. And sAkshI is defined as
avidyA-upahita-chaitanya.

Shuddha chaitanya is drik-without-drik-hood, sAkshI-without-sAkshi-hood.
drik-hood, sAkshi-hood are products of ignorance.

Regards.

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 3:22 PM H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> As mentioned in the quote by Jaldhar Ji, dR^ik in Advaita SiddhAnta is
> Chaitanya/Atman/Brahman. I am citing below just one quote in respect of
> this from Katha Up. It is a followup on 2-2-8 which I have not cited here,
> and may be referred to for context.
>
> Katha Up 2-2-15 //  न तत्र सूर्यो भाति न चन्द्रतारकं नेमा विद्युतो भान्ति
> कुतोऽयमग्निः ।
> तमेव भान्तमनुभाति सर्वं तस्य भासा सर्वमिदं विभाति ॥ १५ ॥  //
>
> //  na tatra sUryo bhAti na chandratArakaM nemA vidyuto bhAnti
> kuto.ayamagniH |
>
> tameva bhAntamanubhAti sarvaM tasya bhAsA sarvamidaM vibhAti || 15 || //
>
> Translation (Swami Gambhirananda)  //  There the sun does not shine,
> neither do the moon and the stars; nor do these flashes of lightning shine.
> How can this fire? He shining, all these shine; through his lustre all
> these are variously illumined.  // .
>
> Regards
>
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> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 11:10 AM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 31 May 2024, Krishna Kashyap via Advaita-l wrote:
> >
> > > what is the technical definition of Drik in Advaita?
> > >
> > > is this in drik drishya viveka or in some other text?
> > >
> >
> > shrI rAmarAya kavi in his vedAntasaMgraha says:
> >
> > dR^ik dR^ishyaM dvau padArthau | imAmeva chidAchiditi GYAnaM jaDamiti cha
> > vyvaharanti | svaprakAshatve sati svetarasarvAvabhAsakatvaM dR^isho
> > lakShaNam | GYeyatvaM dR^shyasya lakShanam |
> >
> > "The two substances are the seer and the seen.  These are also
> > conventionally known as chit[1] and achita[2] and GYAna[3] and jaDa[4].
> > The definition of the seer is that it illuminates all else being
> > self-luminous.  Being the object of Jnana is the definition of seen."
> >
> > [1] consciousness.
> >
> > [2] unconsciousness or rather, non-consciousness.
> >
> > [3] knowledge
> >
> > [4] inertness
> >
> > I have left certain words in Sanskrit in the main body of the translation
> > and only attempted to give an English definition in footnotes because
> > such definitions are inexact. Better to use the proper terms for
> > precision.
> >
> > --
> > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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