[Advaita-l] [advaitin] 'The Jiva is Mithya' - an article in English

[H S Chandramouli]

No Subbu Ji. I dont have any such searchable Upadeshasaahasri text.

Regards

On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 11:25 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Chandramouli ji, for the relevant verses.  Do you have a searchable
> Upadeshasaahasri text?
>
> regards
> subbu
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 8:14 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 9:50 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> // Namaste All,
>>
>> I remember reading in the Upadeshasahasri a considerably lengthy
>> discussion where the unreality of the pratibimba, reflection, has been
>> stated. It would be of help if someone brings that part out here //,
>>
>> Copying below relevant portion from Upadeshasahasri, metric part, Chapter
>> 18, “ Thou Art That”.
>>
>> मुखादन्यो मुखाभासो यथादर्शाचुकारतः |
>>
>> आभासार्मुखमप्येवमादक्शननुवतेनात्‌ ॥ ३२ ॥
>>
>> भर्हृकृयात्मनिर्भासो मुखाभासवदिष्यते |
>>
>>  मुखवत्स्प्रत आत्मान्योऽवि विक्त तौ तथेव च ॥ ३३ ॥
>>
>> 32, 33. As it imitates the mirror the reflection of a face is different
>> from the face. The face which does not depend on the mirror (for its
>> existence) is also different (Note 1) from its reflection. Similarly, the
>> reflection of the Self in the ego is also regarded (as different from the
>> pure Self) like that of the face which is different from the face. The pure
>> Self is considered to be different from Its reflection like the face (which
>> is different from its own). In fact, however, the Self and Its reflection
>> are free (Note 2) from real  distinction between each other like the face
>> and its reflection (Note 3).
>>
>> Note 1 ;; As a matter of fact it is the real face reflected in a mirror
>> and acquiring, as it were, the quality of being in it and possessing its
>> properties that is called the reflection. The reflection cannot be real,
>>  because it is not always in the mirror; nor can it be called absolutely
>> unreal, because it is sometimes seen there. Therefore, the reflection is
>> indescribable and the face is different from it.
>>
>> Note 2 ;; Though there is an apparent distinction there is not a real one
>> between the Self and Its reflection nor between the Self and the intellect.
>> For as a matter of fact neither the reflection nor the intellect has an
>> existence independent of the Self. The conclusion is that Pure
>> Consciousness, reflected in Ignorance and the ego etc., its modifications,
>> is regarded as the individual experiencing transmigratory existence owing
>> to a nondiscrimination between Itself and Its reflection.
>>
>> Note 3 ;;  Which has an existence dependent on that of the face.
>>
>> मात्माभासाश्चयाश्चेवं मुखाभासाश्रया यथा |
>>
>> गम्यन्ते राल्नयुक्तिभ्यामाभासासस्वमेव च ॥ ४३ ॥
>>
>> 43. The Self, Its reflection and the seat of the reflection, (i.e., the
>> intellect) are comparable to the face, its reflection and the mirror. The
>> unreality of the reflection is known from the scriptures and reasoning.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
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