[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Is pot-abhAva bhAvarUpa

[Bhaskar YR]

Your various arguments of pot abhava - three gunas - abhava bhavarupa - pratiyogi are all based on the ontological considerations not epistemological. Avidya and adhyasa are epistemological errors not existential entities. The same logic simply does not apply.


praNAms Sri MCC prabhuji
Hare Krishna

Shortly, I was wondering how Sri Sudhanshu prabhuji holding POT in his hand and trying to prove bhAvarUpa mUlAvidyA 😊 If I remember correctly Sri Venkataraghavan prabhuji, few years back, had written some post on ghata bhAshya, it is more of pre-existence of kArya in kAraNa and it is not about brahmAshrita mUlAvidyA and IMO, here bhAshyakAra has no intention of proving pre-existense of bhAvarUpa mUlAvidyA!!  I don’t know how our tArkika Sri SudhAnshu prabhuji is trying to prove apple holding orange in his hand!! 😊  Ghata bhAshya rather a good source to understand kArya ananyatva with kAraNa  and kArya (pot) ever existence with kAraNa (clay).  Simply it is all about mAya satkArya vAda, the existence of kArya in the kAraNa prior to its vyAkruta rUpa.

More of this if time permits next week.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

BHASKAR YR

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Dear Sudhanshuji,

Your various arguments of pot abhava - three gunas - abhava bhavarupa - pratiyogi are all based on the ontological considerations not epistemological. Avidya and adhyasa are epistemological errors not existential entities. The same logic simply does not apply.

The snake illusion does not require the snake to exist; it arises from misperception, not from a positive ontological snake. Similarly, ignorance need not have a positive existence to explain the concealment of Brahman.


On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 10:18 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com<mailto:sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>> wrote:
Namaste Michael ji.

asked and already answered, again and again, Please, let's move on. 🙏🙏🙏

No categorical answer has ever been provided to this simple question.

Let us stop here. No need to move on. It is a central concept.

Simple questions:

1. Is pot-abhAva bhAvarUpa?

2. Is pot-abhAva made of three guNAs namely sattva, rajas and tamas?

You take help from SSSS Ji's footnotes or from whatever source, but come up with precise answers. Don't copy-paste. Be clear.

Regards.
Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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