[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Kilogram concluded

[Raghav Kumar Dwivedula]

Namaste Venkat ji and Sudhanshu ji

AvidyA is svaparanirvAhikA like the category called "bheda".


The idea of AtmAshraya doSha being present in most logical systems and not
only in traditional nyAya, can we give any other laukika example(s) for
sva-para-nirvAhikA (to say avidyA idea is not subject to AtmAshraya-doSha).
I mean other examples easier to relate to without entities like "bheda" ;
the SS idea of bheda differentiating both itself from others (sva) as well
as others (bheda is not a pot) from each other (para - like pot from cloth).

Thank you.
Om
Raghav






On Wed, 4 Sept, 2024, 5:21 pm Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,
>
> Re
> "But, in eka-sattA-vAda, do we give provisional existence to
> ignorance/world? "
>
> In my opinion - The existence of ignorance in ekasattAvAda should be
> sat-tAdAtmya only. avidyA is sva-para-nirvAhikA and anAdi, so there is no
> AtmAshraya doSha with that.
>
> Regards
> Venkatraghavan
>
> On Wed, 4 Sept 2024, 19:34 Sudhanshu Shekhar, <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Venkat ji for your response.
> >
> > If we do not give ignorance provisional existence, we would be open to
> >> charge of apramANya to the karma kANDa.
> >>
> >
> > In sattA-traividhya-vAda, I fully agree with you that provisional
> > existence is granted to ignorance/world.
> >
> > But, in eka-sattA-vAda, do we give provisional existence to
> > ignorance/world? Eka-sattA-vAda is not from the standpoint of Brahman. It
> > is still from the ignorance standpoint. So, the onus of explanation of
> > ignorance/world/veil remains on the advaitI. However, he does not give
> any
> > sort of existence to ignorance/world. We do the vyapadesha of
> > prAtibhAsikatva/vyAvahArikatva without admitting prAtibhAsika/vyAvahArika
> > sattA because we accept san-mAtra-grAhI-pratyaksha. We do not accept any
> > sort of sattva to vyAvAvahArika/prAtibhAsika vastu, rather mere
> > sat-tAdAtmya is accepted.  I think it is a very important point which
> must
> > be appreciated.
> >
> > Is that not so?
> >
> > May I request you to kindly see page no 7 of the PDF where necessary
> > citation from Shat BhUshanI is mentioned (from page 63 and 90 of Volume
> 1)
> >
> https://sudhanshushekhar.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/eka-satta-vada-vis-a-vis-satta-traividhya-vada.pdf
> >
> > Please share your views if I have made any errors in my understanding.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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