[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Kilogram concluded

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Raghav ji,

A recursive function / algorithm which calls itself, but also achieves a
particular outcome, could be a more modern version of a sva-para-nirvAhaka
vastu.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On Wed, 4 Sept 2024, 20:41 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Venkat ji and Sudhanshu ji
>
> AvidyA is svaparanirvAhikA like the category called "bheda".
>
>
> The idea of AtmAshraya doSha being present in most logical systems and not
> only in traditional nyAya, can we give any other laukika example(s) for
> sva-para-nirvAhikA (to say avidyA idea is not subject to AtmAshraya-doSha).
> I mean other examples easier to relate to without entities like "bheda" ;
> the SS idea of bheda differentiating both itself from others (sva) as well
> as others (bheda is not a pot) from each other (para - like pot from
> cloth).
>
> Thank you.
> Om
> Raghav
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Sept, 2024, 5:21 pm Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l, <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,
> >
> > Re
> > "But, in eka-sattA-vAda, do we give provisional existence to
> > ignorance/world? "
> >
> > In my opinion - The existence of ignorance in ekasattAvAda should be
> > sat-tAdAtmya only. avidyA is sva-para-nirvAhikA and anAdi, so there is no
> > AtmAshraya doSha with that.
> >
> > Regards
> > Venkatraghavan
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Sept 2024, 19:34 Sudhanshu Shekhar, <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Venkat ji for your response.
> > >
> > > If we do not give ignorance provisional existence, we would be open to
> > >> charge of apramANya to the karma kANDa.
> > >>
> > >
> > > In sattA-traividhya-vAda, I fully agree with you that provisional
> > > existence is granted to ignorance/world.
> > >
> > > But, in eka-sattA-vAda, do we give provisional existence to
> > > ignorance/world? Eka-sattA-vAda is not from the standpoint of Brahman.
> It
> > > is still from the ignorance standpoint. So, the onus of explanation of
> > > ignorance/world/veil remains on the advaitI. However, he does not give
> > any
> > > sort of existence to ignorance/world. We do the vyapadesha of
> > > prAtibhAsikatva/vyAvahArikatva without admitting
> prAtibhAsika/vyAvahArika
> > > sattA because we accept san-mAtra-grAhI-pratyaksha. We do not accept
> any
> > > sort of sattva to vyAvAvahArika/prAtibhAsika vastu, rather mere
> > > sat-tAdAtmya is accepted.  I think it is a very important point which
> > must
> > > be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Is that not so?
> > >
> > > May I request you to kindly see page no 7 of the PDF where necessary
> > > citation from Shat BhUshanI is mentioned (from page 63 and 90 of Volume
> > 1)
> > >
> >
> https://sudhanshushekhar.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/eka-satta-vada-vis-a-vis-satta-traividhya-vada.pdf
> > >
> > > Please share your views if I have made any errors in my understanding.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > > Sudhanshu Shekhar.
> > >
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