[Advaita-l] [advaitin] How jnAnAbhAva can cause adhyAsa !!??

[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Venkat ji.

To clarify, for a bhAvarupa ajnAna vAdin, it is not a problem that
> anupalabdhi (or any vRtti for that matter) is needed for the cognition of
> jnAna abhAva, because for me there is a bhAvarUpa ajnAna that is not jnAna
> abhAva.
>
> I hold that the object of the cognition "I don't know anything" is a
> bhAvarUpa ajnAna, not jnAna abhAva. So, even if anupalabdhi reveals that
> there is jnAna abhAva, what is revealed is bhAvarupa ajnAna only! Therefore
> the existence of anupalabdhi vRtti does not invalidate the cognition "I
> don't know".
>

Sorry. I don't follow you.

Let us concentrate on siddhAnta. We accept bhAvarUpa ajnAna. However, we do
accept jnAna-abhAva also which is distinct from bhAvarUpa ajnAna.

The vishaya of pratIti "I don't know anything" is indeed bhAvarUpa ajnAna.
But it does not imply that we do not admit jnAna-abhAva. In fact,
jnAna-abhAva (distinct from bhAvarUpa ajnAna) is also present there.

So, as per siddhAnta, in your opinion, what is the pramANa for knowing
jnAna-abhAva.

I feel it (present jnAna-abhAva) can be through anumAna, wherein
bhAvarUpa-ajnAna is vyApya and jnAna-abhAva is vyApaka. Advaita Siddhi also
seems to mention the same. BhAvrUpa ajnAna is sAkshi-bhAsya and acts as
hetu resulting into jnAna of sAdhya (jnAna-abhAva).

 न च तर्हि प्रातरनुभूतचत्वरे गजज्ञानाभावज्ञानं कथमिति वाच्यम् ;
ज्ञानानुपलब्ध्यैवेत्यवेहि । अनुपलब्धिज्ञानं च भावरूपाज्ञानेन लिङ्गेन ।


https://archive.org/details/Advaita.Siddhi.by.Madhusudana.Sarasvati/page/n578/mode/1up

Please note that jnAna-abhAva is being known by using vyApti-jnAna through
anumAna. Hence, jnAna-abhAva-jnAna is not jnAna-karaNa-ajanya. Hence, it is
not being known through anupalabdhi-pramANa which is necessarily
jnAna-karaNa-ajanaya.

So, I feel jnAna-abhAva in siddhAnta is held to be known through anumAna
(and through arthApatii also. But certainly not through anupalabdhi).

JnAna-abhAva cannot be known through pratyaksha/anupalabdhi/sAkshI as
discussed.

Regards.
Sudhanshu Shekhar.

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