[Advaita-l] Fwd: [advaitin] what is abhava?

[Michael Chandra Cohen]

Bhaskarji,
SSSS in Sugama (section 40ff) explains smriti rupah or specifically, smṛtirūpaḥ
paratra pūrva dṛṣṭa-āvabhāsah, as pertaining to lokiah adhyasa not adhyatma
adhyasa. A week ago or so, I posted a lovely response on this thread from
Prasanth Netiji in this regard. No response from that posting has been
forthcoming.  If Bhasyakara uses causal or material terms relating to
avidya or adhyasa, they must be taken as figurative only despite mvv's best
efforts to prove otherwise. There is no winning this debate with mvv.
SSSSji tried for 40 years. However, I find the debate good for manana and
keeping some logic circuits functioning.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 7:45 AM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at hitachienergy.com>
wrote:

> Please, how is avidya a tamasa pratyaya rupa for us? Avidya is purely an
> epistemolgical klesha - as adhyasa, it precedes guna, pratyaya and rupa
> respectively.
>
> praNAms Sri MCC prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> While explaining adhyAsa lakshaNa bhAshyakAra uses these terms, like
> smruti rUpa, tAmasa pratyaya etc. example geeta bhAshya 13.2 (tAmasO hi
> pratyaya.  It is like tAmasic notion, it is what obscures etc.  So while
> describing that this is antaHkaraNa dOsha bhAshyakAra himself explains this
> as smruti rUpa, tAmasa pratyaya etc.  Likewise elsewhere Sri SSS explains
> kAraNAvidyA and kAryAvidyA as well.  The agrahaNa is called kAraNAvidyA and
> anyathAgrahaNa called as kAryAvidyA.  And I don’t have to explain this
> further to you from Sri SSS's perspective as you are well aware of his view
> points.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>