[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Deep Sleep is Nondual Self with objections refuted, SSSS

[Michael Chandra Cohen]

Namaste Sudhanshuji and Jaishankar,
I will copy/paste Sudhanshuji's reply to PN ji in FB.  PN ji commented that
he does not wish to discuss with anyone who has not read SSSS - quite
understandable to my mind. So, I won't bother with JS's reply.

Jaishankar, have you looked at that article I posted a few days back. Any
reaction?

Regards, Michael Chandra

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 1:32 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar <sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste.
>
> Prājña is tritIya from waking standpoint. However, from standpoint of
>>> truth (i.e. from its own standpoint) that itself is said to be the truth
>>> (again “the fourth!” from waking standpoint).
>>>
>>
> From standpoint of truth, there is no sushupti. There is only truth. There
> is only turIya.
>
> The prAjna-tva of prAjna is avidyA-krita. Remove prAjna-tva and that is
> turIya.
>
> The vishwa-tva of vishwa and taijasa-tva of taijasa is avidyA-krita.
> Remove vishwa-tva and taijasa-tva and that is turIya.
>
> One needs to remove upAdhi. In case of prAjna, ONLY avidyA is upAdhi. So,
> we remove that to arrive at turIya. From the standpoint of truth, there is
> no avidyA. Naturally, what is referred as prAjna is revealed as turIya.
>
> But then, what was referred as vishwa and taijasa are also revealed as
> turIya. In their cases, avidyA and also mind are upAdhi. From standpoint of
> truth, the upAdhis are not present and hence vishwa and taijasa are
> revealed as turIya.
>
> What is this preferential treatment for prAjna? Be it prAjna, vishwa or
> taijasa, their literal meaning is "turIya with some upAdhi". From
> standpoint of truth, there is no upAdhi.
>
> So, to aver turIyatva of prAjna alone in a preferential manner from the
> standpoint of truth is misleading.
>
> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
>
>
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