hovila at FOXINTERNET.NET
Wed Jul 2 02:39:11 CDT 1997
Very well said. I wonder how many macho nondualist philosophers were
standing around in Rwanda asking "How is violence recognizable?" while
heads were flying past.
> From: Martin Gifford <marting at NSWCC.ORG.AU>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ADVAITA-L <ADVAITA-L at TAMU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Time Bound
> Date: Wednesday, July 02, 1997 12:07 AM
> Hi All !
> Well I can see this one is going to keep me busy... :-)
> How is violence recognisable? Screams, blood, crying, etc.
> Who is there to make a distinction? Beauty, love, intelligence, feelings.
> You know.... human stuff, heart stuff.
> Who is being violent to whom? An owned aspect of consciousness is being
> violent to a disowned aspect of consciousness.
> I am asking - What is the motivation for violence? Isn't it caused by the
> sense of separation? If so, then when that sense of separation is gone,
> violence should be gone too. Human violence is clearly a distortion
> by ego. If a person has feelings (we spiritual philosophers tend to
> about feelings) then it is more than a philisophical question.
> Best wishes to All,
> Martin Gifford.
> At 02:15 AM 1/07/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi Mark,
> > But if, as you say, there "is no duality, no self/other split,"
> >how is so-called "violence" (or, for that matter, even "non-violence")
> >recognizable as such? "Who" is really there to be making that
> > In other words, "who" is being "violent" towards "whom?"
> > When your ego seemingly disappears (it doesn't really exist in the
> >first place), there will be no separate one left to give "us" an
> >anyway. What a paradox!
> > With Blessings,
> > Chuck Hillig
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