Vishnu and Shiva

Rolando Santos sivadancer at YAHOO.COM
Mon Mar 10 12:12:21 CST 2003


Some thoughts that popped into my head when I read
your post. I beg further clarification from more
learned members:

1) Rudra and Vishnu are ultimately ONE not TWO.

2) Brahma - Vishnu - Rudra can be thought of as states
of the ONE Being. For example: in the course of
building a sand castle, you will experience these
three states. When you are first building, you are
like Brahma. When you protect your castle from the
waves and wind, you are like Vishnu. When you finally
tear down the castle, you are like Rudra. Throughout,
you are still only the one being, only going through
different states. If Brahma hadn't created, there
wouldn't be anything for Vishnu to protect, and if
Vishnu hadn't protected anything, there wouldn't be
anything for Rudra to destroy...and if Rudra hadn;t
destroyed, there wouldn't be any room for Brahma to
create again. All states of being "get power" or are
dependant on the other states.

3) I think from the Puranas: Vishnu receives his power
to protect the Universe from the sudarshana discus
which was a boon from Shiva after Vishnu's worhipping
him with his own eye.

4) As long as we're going the Purana route, Brahma -
Vishnu - Shiva ultimately get their power from their
respective Shaktis...otherwize they are static and
unmoving. So, as long as one is wondering who gets
power from whom, I feel it is important not to forget


--- kalyan chakravarthy <kalyan_kc at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Namaskaar,
> I know my question is not relevant for
> advaitins(including me), but just for
> the sake of academic interest I am asking you this.
> While going through the
> Rig Veda, I have found the reference -
> asya devasya mILhuSo vayA viSNoreSasya prabhRthe
> havirbhiH
> vide hi rudro rudriyaM mahitvaM yAsiSTaM
> vartirashvinAvirAvat
> (RIG VEDA 7.40.5)
> The essence of the translation(not mine, second
> hand) is that Rudra's power
> is due to Vishnu. Does it not show that Vishnu (and
> more importantly not
> rudra)is the cause of everything?
> Please understand that I am asking this out of
> academic interest alone. I
> apologize if I sounded offensive.
> Best Regards
> Kalyan

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