[Advaita-l] 2 questions

[Marko Gregoric]

My friend

To realize your real nature  you have to forget everything you've
heard or read in your entire life. That which remains is qualityless.

Regards
Marko

On 8/11/08, subramanya.uh <subramanya.uh at in.yokogawa.com> wrote:
> Dear Marko,
> Bhagavan Krishna declares in Bhagavadgita
> manushyANAm sahasrEshu kashcit yatati siddhayE
> yatamapi siddhAnAm kashcit mAm vEtti tatvataha||7-3||
> One in thousands of men perchance strives for perfection. and one perchance
> among the blessed ones striving thus knows me in reality.
> That means one in  a million realizes me, that is also rare. Once realized
> he becomes Brahman ( Brahmavit brahmaiva bhavati).
> You may be one in a million who is realized.
> But
> You don't seem to be realized since Bhagavan Shankara in his Viveka
> Chudamani explains the features of Brahma in 10 stanzas starting from verse
> No. 264. As the length of this  posting will increase if all are quoted with
> meanings,(Members are requested to refer to original text especially Mr.
> Marko).  I will give reference of first verse with its meaning;
> jAti nIti kula gOtra dUragam, nAma rUpa guNa dOsha varjitam
> dEshakAla vishayAtivartiyad brahmatatvamasi bhAvayAtmani
> meaning
> That which is beyond caste and creed, family and lineage, devoid of name and
> form, merit and demerits, transcending space , time and sense objects that
> brahman art thou , meditate on this in thy mind.
> Thus different features of Brahman are explained vividly for meditation.
> It seems you don't have any of such attributes explained in these 10 verses
> and hence the group members are trying to say " If any one claims that he is
> realized, he is not" and this one is a Upanishadic statement, I don't
> remember the source, I have heard in one of the lectures.
> Remember that birds will flock at Mango groves when fruits are ripe and the
> Tree never invites them. Hence no one needs to prove!
> Hats off Mr Marko, if you really realized.
> Your comments are welcome after you read all these ten verses and
> understanding them deeply.
> Best wishes and regards
> Subrahmanya UH
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marko Gregoric" <markogregori at gmail.com>
> To: <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>; "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
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> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] 2 questions
>
>
>> My dear Sadananda,
>>
>> here we go again ; ))
>>
>>
>>
>> "Hence any statement that I am self realized - makes one comedown from
>> self-realization."
>>
>> Believe me, once you are there, nothing makes you comedown anymore, I
>> don't
>> know how to explain it, no statement of mine, of yours or of other people
>> can even touch that. If I say I am self realized I am just saying it
>> because I am so happy that it happened, no more than that. I see no Maya
>> anywhere, and I know all my spiritual searchings and sadhana are finished.
>>
>> I
>> feel it happend more by grace than by my efforts. Acctually when my
>> efforts
>> to undestand were finished it happened. I have no idea how.
>>
>>
>> "Hence as Sanaani stated no sage ever declares that I am realized other
>> than
>> to his teacher, perhaps, as confirmation of his correct understanding of
>> the
>> truth."
>>
>> I am not pretending being a sage or a teacher or a man of immense
>> compassion, I am just a normal man who is trying to do the best for his
>> family, friends and society. I will tell you more than that. I am able to
>> hate people, to spend time in gossip, to desire lots of money and so on.
>> So
>> I am definitely not something special in any aspect. I just know it is
>> there, it is like a feeling of something quiet and magic at the same time
>> which is with you all the time and never leaves you. I am sincere 100%.
>>
>>
>> enjoy!
>>
>>
>> Marko
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