[Advaita-l] Narayanaya in Advaita

[H S Chandramouli]

HS Chandramouli

Sri Subrahmanianji wrote

<< In the Vivekachudamani we have a verse  नारायणोऽहं नरकान्तकोऽहम्...[I am
nArAyaNa the slayer of naraka/asura] .where it would hardly be correct to
think the name 'nAraayaNa' means the Lord who is the consort of Lakshmi.
In Advaita expressions like  नारायणोऽहं , शिवोऽहम् do not refer to the
personal God.

In the above verse 'nArAyaNa' refers to JnanasvarUpam/akhaNDAkAravRttiH and
'naraka' / narakAsura refers to ignorance/avidyA. >>

I am not interpreting any particular verse or shruti vakyas as referring to
a specific form/name. All I am saying is that in our puranas there are any
number of references to Narayana as residing in Vaikuntha/milky ocean etc.
And many of my friends were keen to know the status of such a personal God
like Narayana in advaita . That is all.

Regards


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:15 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:

> In the Vivekachudamani we have a verse  नारायणोऽहं नरकान्तकोऽहम्...[I am
> nArAyaNa the slayer of naraka/asura] .where it would hardly be correct to
> think the name 'nAraayaNa' means the Lord who is the consort of Lakshmi.
> In Advaita expressions like  नारायणोऽहं , शिवोऽहम् do not refer to the
> personal God.
>
> In the above verse 'nArAyaNa' refers to JnanasvarUpam/akhaNDAkAravRttiH and
> 'naraka' / narakAsura refers to ignorance/avidyA.
>
> subrahmanian.v
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:33 PM, H S Chandramouli
> <hschandramouli at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > HS Chandramouli
> >
> > So many shruti vakyas have been cited in this thread to highlight the
> > advaitic concept of Narayana. However there are so many references in our
> > shastras , shruti/purana etc , to Narayana with a definite form, endowed
> > with ayudhas/ornaments etc , and involved in so many activities . Many of
> > my advaita friends have always had a doubt on advaita's stand regarding
> the
> > reality status of this Narayana vis a vis rest of the creation. This has
> > been eulogized so much that while they have no difficulty in accepting
> the
> > mithyatvam of rest of the creation ( mostly interpreted as unreal/false )
> > same is not so with regard to this Narayana. Sri Ramanujacharya cites the
> > Narayanasukta which according to him refers to this Narayana as the only
> > authoritative shruti to identify the Highest Truth ( supported by Sri
> > Vishnumaha Purana ) . Ofcourse in most of their discourses the dvaitins
> do
> > not forget to mention that advaita does not  accept the reality of even
> > such a Narayana !!!!!!!! Perhaps there is a need to answer the question
> > with specific reference to this Narayana. I have tried to answer them as
> > follows.
> >
> > << Narayana as distinct from/different from/ separate from / independant
> of
> > I the Consciouness is Mithya.
> >
> >      Narayana as same as / nondifferent from / nondistinct from /
> identical
> > with I the Consciouness is Sathya  >>
> >
> > May be better ways are available to answer the question.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Namaste
> > >
> > > The Narayana name is very holy because Mahabharata and Bhagavata say -
> > > Naaraayanam Namaskrutya Naram Chaiva NarOttamam. In Bhagavata the story
> > of
> > > Ajamila is given. He was a great sinner. But he called his son's name
> > > Narayana at the time of death when Yama Dootas were pulling him but God
> > > Narayana protected him.
> > > The Naaraayana Ashtakshari Mantra is compulsory for Vaishnavas. When
> they
> > > do the Purusha Sukta homa also they say every line from Pursha Sukta
> and
> > > then Om Namo Naaraayanaaya Swaahaa" after each line. It gives a good
> > effect
> > > for Purusha Sukta Homa.
> > >
> > > In Advaita Naaraayana is Brahman only. Narayana Upanishad is saying
> > > 'Naaraayana Evedagm Sarvam Yadbhutam Yacca Bhavyam. Nishkalo Niranjano
> > > Nirvikalpo Niraakhyaataha Shuddho Deva Eko Naaraayanaha. Na Dviteeyo
> Asti
> > > Kashchit. Ya Evam Veda. Sa Vishnureva Bhavati. Sa Vishnureva Bhavati.
> > > Everything in past, present and future is Naraayaana only. He who knows
> > > this becomes Vishnu. He becomes Vishnu. The Naaraayana Ashtakshara is
> > given
> > > next by the Upanishad.
> > >
> > > Complete text of Upanishad.
> > > http://www.sathyasaiottawa.org/pdf/Vedam/Narayana_Upanishad.pdf
> > >
> > > Namo Naaraayanaaya. Namo Venkateshaaya.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > -Venkatesh
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