[Advaita-l] Please answer to this

[kuntimaddi sadananda]

Chandramouliji - PraNAms

Just found the reference to the 16 samaanadhikaranams. I am quoting part of Ken Knight article and the referenced book which is available in the archives of advaitin list for those who want to have the reference.
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This work is from a monograph entitled Mahavakyas byDr. T.N Ganapathy 
He was at the Department of Philosophy, Ramakrishna
Mission, Vivekananda College in Madras and the work
was printed in 1982.

In this book 16 samanaadhikaranas are dicussed. 

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Although I had got the monograph because of interest
in the Mahavakyas I have found it very useful for some
insights into grammar.
Happy reading

ken Knight
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On Tue, 10/20/15, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "H S Chandramouli" <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
 Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 9:58 AM
 
 
 Chandramouliji - Yes. Swami Paramarthanandaji did indicated
 that there are apparently 16 samaanadhikaranas. The four
 that were mentioned here are apparently discussed by
 Shankara in his Brahma sutra bhashya - not remember where
 exactly. I think the sixteen samaanaadhikaranas were
 discussed in the other list by Kennith or so, and it may be
 available in the archives. If I find it I will post it here.
 
 
 The lakshnaas - jahat, ajahat and jahat ajahat lakshanas
 were discussed by Sadananda yogindra in his Vedanta saara. 
 
 About Ghataaksaasha -  currently we just finished
 discussing the Avachcheda vaada and Abhaasa vaada - in
 relation to Jiiva in the Vichaarasaagara class. I am
 planning to write on it sometime soon. That may also be
 pertinent in terms of bhaamati vs vivarana schools, since
 avachchedavaada is attributed to Mandana Misra and
 Abhaasavaada to Sureswara, vidyaranya, etc. although
 Shankara does not endorse either one, but uses both
 arguments. 
 
 As Subbuji pointed that the fundamentals - 1. Brahma satyam
 2. Jagan mithyaa 3. JivaH brahma eva na aparaH - forms the
 basic tenets of Advaita Vedanta that all aacharyas
 subscribe. The rest are only considered as prakriyas that
 help to understand the mahaavaakyas. Shaastras do not
 discuss these - only acharyas discuss these to extract
 tatparya as Subbuji indicated. 
 
 Hari Om!
 Sadananda
 
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 On Tue, 10/20/15, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
  To: "kuntimaddi sadananda" <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>,
 "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
  Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 9:19 AM
  
  Sri
  Sadananda Ji,
  Sri
  Bhagavatpada also uses Mukhya Samaanaadhikaranam apart
 from
  Badha Samaanaadhikaranam to explain tat
  tvam asi by way of the classic illustration of Ghatakasha
  and Mahakasha. Just a passing
  observation.
  I have heard Sri Paramarthananda
  Swamiji discuss Samaanaadhikaranam in some other context ,
 not the
  one you have mentioned. I think he covered both the above
   in that context under the fourth category by calling it
  Lakshya Lakshana  Samaanaadhikaranam. I am recalling
  from memory and could be wrong. But an interesting point
 he
  made was that one scholar has listed as many as sixteen
  types of Samaanaadhikaranams  and that he (
  Sri SP ) was only covering four of them in the talk. Just
 as
  supplementary info.
  Regards and
  Pranams
     .
  On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at
  9:06 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
  wrote:
  Shree
  Venkataraghavan- PraNAms
  
  
  
  Shruti itself has both bheda vaakyaas and abheda vaakyaas.
  Shankara takes abheda vaakyaas as primary and bheda
 vaakyaas
  as secondary. While Ramanuja takes the other way around.
  Both accept that Brahman is both material and intelligent
  cause. Only Dwaita does not accept that.
  
  
  
  Both Ramanuja and Shankara use samaanaadhikara to account
  tat tvam asi statements. Ramanujauses visheshana
  visheshyaabhyam samaanaadhikaranam while Shankara uses
  bhaadaayam samaanaadhikaranam.
  
  
  
  Madhva uses some sources which are not really accessible
 to
  any body to justify his stand.
  
  
  
  Just a note
  
  
  
  Hari Om!
  
  Sadananda
  
  
  
  
  
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  On Mon, 10/19/15, Venkatraghavan
  S via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
  wrote:
  
  
  
   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Please answer to this
  
   To: "A discussion group for Advaita
  Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>,
  "Harsha Bhat" <harsha9519 at gmail.com>
  
   Date: Monday, October 19, 2015, 1:36 PM
  
  
  
   Sri Harsha,
  
   What difference does it possibly make? Whether
  
   someone wins a debate or
  
   not, how is that
  
   going to help?
  
  
  
   I for one am
  
   not a historian, so I cannot say who won, or even if a
  
   debate
  
   took place, but frankly I don't
  
   care.
  
  
  
   However one thing is
  
   for sure - it is absolutely evident that advaita
  
   siddhAnta stems directly from shruti.
  
   Therefore, even if some clever person
  
   wins a
  
   debate today, someone cleverer can come tomorrow to
  disprove
  
   him,
  
   but as long as his siddhAnta is at odds
  
   with vedA it cannot be right.
  
  
  
   However, a shruti based siddhAnta can never be
  
   disproved, because of the
  
   very fact that it
  
   comes from the VedA.
  
  
  
   Therefore I'm not so interested to know the
  
   history of the debate, what I'm
  
   concerned with is to understand the shruti
  
   established advaita siddhAnta
  
   correctly.
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
   Venkatraghavan
  
   On 15 Oct 2015
  
   17:14, "Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l" <
  
   advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
  
   wrote:
  
  
  
   > And one more
  
   point I forgot to mention,
  
   >
  
   >
  
   >             
  
               That  madhva pandith also said that
  
   even
  
   > shankaracharya lost in debate with
  
   vedavyasa,he also adds that ,
  
   > even in
  
   some shankara vijaya says that adi shankara lost in
  debate
  
   with
  
   > vedavyasa.
  
   >
  
   >
  
   > So,please tell me
  
   whether in any shankara vijaya there is a topic of
  
   > shankaracharya losing debate with
  
   vedavyasa?
  
   >
  
   > Or it
  
   is also one among maadhva's  crooked up stories?
  
   >
  
   >  Any knowledgeable
  
   person,please answer....
  
   >
  
   >
  
   > regards,
  
   > Harsha Bhat
  
   >
  
   > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Srirudra
  
   <srirudra at gmail.com>
  
   wrote:
  
   >
  
   > >
  
   Dear
  
   > > Whether should replace
  
   weather.This type of mistaken spellings are
  
   > > provided by the iPad .So one should
  
   be careful while forwarding the
  
   > >
  
   mail.R.Krishnamoorthy.
  
   > >
  
   > > Sent from my iPad
  
   > >
  
   > > > On
  
   15-Oct-2015, at 7:46 PM, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l <
  
   > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
  
   wrote:
  
   > > >
  
   >
  
   > > Namaskara,
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   1)      Madhvas are very famous for loose talk and
  they
  
   always down
  
   > grade
  
   >
  
   > > other philosophy and its acharyas.
  
   > > >
  
   > >
  
   >
  
   > > > When talking about this
  
   with a famous madhva pandith,he said not only
  
   > we
  
   > > > madhvas
  
   ,advaithis also down grade madhvas.
  
   >
  
   > >
  
   > > > He said vidhyaranya
  
   called madhvachrya as madhu named devil. Which
  
   > comes
  
   > > in
  
   > > > soura purana.
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   Weather it is true?
  
   > > >
  
   > > > Weather vidhyaranya called
  
   madhva as madhu named devil?
  
   > > >
  
   If so,where ? in which book?
  
   > >
  
   >
  
   > > >
  
   >
  
   > > Please reply ,so that  I can answer him...
  
   > > >
  
   > >
  
   >   2) And also,he said vidhyaranya got
  
   defeated by akshobhya theertha in
  
   > >
  
   > vakhyartha of "tat tvam asi"...
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   In respect of that, vidhyaranya installed a vijaya
  sthamba
  
   in
  
   > mulibagilu
  
   > >
  
   > for respecting akshobhya theertha...
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   Weather it is true that  vidhyaranaya got defeated by
  
   akshobhya
  
   > theertha
  
   >
  
   > > for  vakhyartha of tat tvam asi?
  
   > > >
  
   > > >
  
   Or it is just dvaithi's crooked up story for down
  
   grading other
  
   > > philosophy
  
   > > > acharyas?
  
   >
  
   > >
  
   > > >
  
   > > > regards,
  
   >
  
   > > Harsha Bhat
  
   > > >
  
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