[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Looking for a verse: अवश्यं भाविभावानां.....
V Subrahmanian
v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Wed Jan 18 20:50:20 CST 2017
Also there is a statement in the YV that innumerable Ramayanas and
Mahabharatas have happened in a sort if history repeating itself.
On Jan 19, 2017 5:08 AM, "Ajit Krishnan via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> There are one or two oblique references to Yudhishthira in the Yoga
> Vasishtha. For example -- युधिष्ठिर इति ख्यातो धर्मपुत्रो भविष्यति
> (6.1.52.29).
>
> sasneham,
>
> ajit
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Vidyasankar Sundaresan via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Since the Yogavasishtha is itself in the form of a dialog between
> Vasishtha
> > and Rama, I doubt if the verse avaSyambhAvi ... appears in it. I have
> seen
> > no reference to Yudhishthira in the Yogavasishtha so far.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vidyasankar
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear friends,
> > >
> > > Though deviating from the subject line, kindly permit me to add that
> even
> > > the Bhagavad Gita has 21 verses common with the Yogavashishtha.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sunil KB
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > On Wed, 1/18/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > > vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Looking for a verse: अवश्यं
> > > भाविभावानां.....
> > > To: "श्रीमल्ललितालालितः" <lalitaalaalitah at lalitaalaalitah.com>, "A
> > > discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > vedanta.org
> > > >
> > > Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 2:15 AM
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at
> > > 12:16 AM,
> > > श्रीमल्ललितालालितः via
> > > Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Same appears in
> > > जीवन्मुक्तिविवेकः.
> > > > I think it has been taken from
> > > योगवासिष्ठः .
> > > > See
> > > a link with hints:
> > > > http://sadgurusmaran.blogspot.in/2012/10/34.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for
> > > the link which hints at the Yogavasishtha source. If there
> > > is a
> > > YV unicode resource, maybe we can
> > > search for this verse there. YV is a very
> > > old text and Sri Vidyaranya has quoted
> > > extensively from there in the JVM.
> > > In fact
> > > in the Panchadashi context, this verse appears amidst some
> > > other
> > > verses, from the BG, etc. which are
> > > all citations. Hence it is likely that
> > > this
> > > verse is from a source outside the Panchadashi.
> > >
> > > The Yogavasishtha also
> > > presents Rama as deeply affected by the ways of the
> > > world, life, etc. and that is where the enquiry
> > > into the nature of samsāra,
> > > remedy, etc.
> > > start as a dialogue between Vasishtha and Rama.
> > >
> > > There are said to be half a
> > > dozen commentaries to the YV. Vidyaranya says
> > > while referring to the YV verses, 'vālmiki
> > > says...'. So, there has been a
> > > belief
> > > that the YV is also a part of Ramayana or an independent
> > > work by
> > > Valmiki.
> > >
> > > The inclusion of Rama along with Nala and
> > > Yudhishthira is somewhat strange.
> > > However,
> > > in the Valmiki Ramayana we have verses from the mouth of
> > > Rama
> > > expressing the miserable times he is
> > > undergoing.
> > >
> > > https://www.valmiki.iitk.ac.in/sloka?field_kanda_tid=3&
> > > language=dv&field_sarga_value=63
> > >
> > > स लक्ष्मणं
> > > शोकवशाभिपन्नं शोके
> > > निमग्नो विपुले तु
> > > रामः।
> > > उवाच
> > > वाक्यं
> > > व्यसनानुरूपमुष्णं
> > > विनिश्श्वस्य
> > > रुदंत्सशोकम्।।3.63.2।।
> > > Plunged in deep grief, Rama heaved hot sighs
> > > and said these words to
> > > griefstricken
> > > Lakshmana, *weeping:*
> > >
> > > न
> > > मद्विधो
> > > दुष्कृतकर्मकारी
> > > मन्ये द्वितीयोऽस्ति
> > > वसुन्धरायाम्।
> > > शोकेन शोको हि
> > > परम्पराया मा मेति
> > > भिन्दन्हृदयं
> > > मनश्च।।3.63.3।।
> > > I think
> > > there is none on earth like me who has performed such
> > > forbidden
> > > acts. One grief after the other is
> > > successively piercing my heart and my
> > > mind.
> > >
> > > पूर्वं मया
> > > नूनमभीप्सितानि
> > > पापानि
> > > कर्माण्यसकृत्कृतानि।
> > > तत्रायमद्यापतितो
> > > विपाको दुःखेन दुःखं
> > > यदहं विशामि।।3.63.4।।
> > > In the past I had certainly done some sinful
> > > deeds I often liked the
> > > consequences of
> > > which have descended on me now as I am experiencing one
> > > sorrow after another.
> > >
> > > राज्यप्रणाशस्स्वजनैर्वियोगः
> > > पितुर्विनाशो
> > > जननीवियोगः।
> > > सर्वाणि मे
> > > लक्ष्मण
> > > शोकवेगमापूरयन्ति
> > > प्रविचिन्तितानि।।3.63.5।।
> > > O Lakshmana, loss of kingdom, separation from
> > > kith and kin, death of
> > > father, separation
> > > from mother--all these thoughts augment my sorrow faster
> > > and in greater measure.
> > >
> > > सर्वं तु दुःखं मम
> > > लक्ष्मणेदं शान्तं
> > > शरीरे वनमेत्य
> > > शून्यम्।
> > > सीतावियोगात्पुनरप्युदीर्णं
> > > काष्ठैरिवाग्निस्सहसा
> > > प्रदीप्तः।।3.63.6।।
> > > O Lakshmana, all this sorrow calmed down when I
> > > came to this solitary
> > > forest. But with
> > > Sita's separation, it was rekindled just as fire
> > > blazes
> > > forth again with logs of wood.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The
> > > translation of
> > > जीवन्मुक्तिविवेकः by Swami
> > > Mokshadananda of RK Math may
> > > > help
> > > you.
> > > > Don't have book in PC, so
> > > can't check now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > *श्रीमल्ललितालालितः*www.lalitaalaalitah.com
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017
> > > at 11:43 PM, V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
> > > > [advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking for
> > > a verse: अवश्यं
> > > भाविभावानां.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > In the Panchadashi of
> > > Vidyaranya, in the 7th chapter we have a verse:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > अवश्यं भाविभावानां
> > > प्रतीकारो भवेद्यदि ।
> > > > > तदा दुःखैर्न
> > > लिप्येरन्
> > > नलरामयुधिष्ठिराः
> > > ॥१५५॥
> > > > > 156. If it were
> > > possible to avert the consequences of fructifying Karma,
> > > > > Nala, Rama and Yudhisthira would not
> > > have suffered the miseries to which
> > > >
> > > > they were subjected.
> > > > > This
> > > verse is cited along with several other verses under the
> > > head
> > > > > 'bhārata'
> > > (Mahabharata?) by Sri Viśveśvara Saraswati in his
> > > Yatidharma
> > > > > sangraha (p.140 print
> > > and 149 of pdf) while discussing the need for a
> > > > > sannyāsin to leave things to
> > > prārabdha and not be concerned about the
> > > > basic
> > > > > needs for
> > > sustenance.
> > > > > It appears that
> > > Vidyaranya too has cited that verse from some other
> > > > > source. I would like to know which is
> > > the original source of this verse.
> > > > >
> > > The Mahabharata is also a possible source. Any help is
> > > appreciated.
> > > > > Thanks and regards
> > > > > subrahmanian.v
> > > >
> > > >
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