[Advaita-l] Sixteen essential qualities of Jagadguru

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

There are two types of Sanyasa. They are Vividisha Sanyasa and Vidwat
Sanyasa. Those having Vividisha Sanyasa should avoid luxuries like costly
clothes, eating rich and festival food, jewelry, speaking to young women
and so on. Those having Vidwat Sanyasa have already realized. They may or
may not avoid luxuries. There is no difference for them.

Some Dvaiti Sanyasis may even travel with the Poorvashrama wife and she
will also get many gifts from people.


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Jay Kumar prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> >  As Sri subbu prabhuji said it is an article collected by Sri pramod
> bharadwaj prabhuji.  The source / author of that article might be known
> through him only.
>
> >  However, if I am not a nitpicker, would like to share  some
> observations  on the following lakshaNa of the jagadguru.
>
> 3. He is filled with Vairagya and gives up all worldly pleasures and
> luxuries.
>
> >  While vairagya is the internal quality of the jagadguru-s,  the worldly
> pleasures and luxuries are the facilities provided to jagadguru-s who are
> also being  peetAdhipati-s / maTAdhipati-s.  To reach people, to give
> darshana, bless their devotees and to visit various places quickly they
> travel from one place to another in luxurious cars.  Devotees / disciples
> would provide them room-coolers, fans, AC-s and well cushioned thrones
> while delivering the discourses.  They wear costliest fabrics and ornaments
> including crown on special occasions as a traditional mutt  formality.  And
> sometime back I was stunned after hearing that some jagadguru-s regular
> wear saffron robes would cost around 15K to 20 K !!  Though how much they
> attached / detached themselves to these luxuries they only know for the
> on-lookers these things would appear luxurious only and not essentials.
> Anyway, while it is another argument that they deserve all these than
> anybody else on this earth and their followers / shishya vrunda  would like
> to provide and decorate them like that, outside critics would always wonder
> why  these vairAgya mUrthy-s need comforts and luxuries like this !!  And
> as a matter of fact some jagadguru-s suddenly would vanish from public
> darshana / public stage ignoring the long awaiting queue just to give
> special darshana or  to have some clandestine  meeting with some popular
> politician or film actor !!  I myself was the eye witness of this event
> some years back here in Bengaluru :-)
>
> >  and finally, IMHO,  when prArabdha is the force that even paramArtha
> jnAni could not escape, drawing the categorical  characteristics of
> jagadguru-s and expecting that in some personalities is to the extent an
> uncanny way of determining the jagadguru-s.
>
> >  Kindly pardon me if I said anything wrong.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Advaita-l [mailto:advaita-l-bounces at lists.advaita-vedanta.org] On
> Behalf Of Jay Kumar via Advaita-l
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 1:24 PM
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Cc: Jay Kumar <saipadukajk at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Sixteen essential qualities of Jagadguru
>
> Namaskarams to all.
>
> While it is a very useful, comprehensive and an   informative posting to
> the
> seekers of 'moksha'  (at all stages),  by Sri V Subramanian,  the
> significance of the 16 points would get reinforced with authenticity if the
> source is made known. Whether  they are  referred in the article by some
> scholar or the views of a great individual. if so, name of the source or
> the individual may please be let known .
>
> Regards,
>
> S K Jayakumar
>
>
>
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-Venkatesh