[Advaita-l] Question about Sri Vidyaranya's JMV & jnani matra

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 07:41:36 EDT 2019

Namaste Bhaskar Ji,

Sorry for the delayed response. My Net connection was down.

I think we have discussed this topic as between us too many times. No point
in going over the same discussions over and over again. When posts by other
members on the topic call for a response, let us do so separately and put
forth our respective views as deemed fit. It is upto them to take a view.
We can avoid discussions as between us.


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On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:45 PM Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Chandramouli prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
> A small difference in my understanding. Prarabdha is different from
> samskAra/vAsanas.
> >  With the same breath can we say prArabdha and avidyA lesha both are
> different avidyA lesha pertains to saMskAkara / vAsana which comes along
> with prArabdha??
> When a new sharIra is takenup due to prArabdha, it is along with
> samskAras/vAsanAs. This has been stated elsewhere in the vArtika. I am
> unable to give exact reference offhand. SharIra lasts as long as dictated
> by prArabdha. SamskArAs/vAsanAs continue during this period but as modified
> due to sAdhanAs undertaken in the current birth prior to jnAna.
> >  This is very interesting.  Need vArtika quotes.  Is vArtikakAra
> clarifying here sAdhana-s undertaken prior to jnana in current shareera
> (vartamAna shareera) could modify the repercussions of vAsana/saMskAra ??
> Modification in what sense??  Could you please elaborate this with proper
> reference please.
> But they can be overcome through sAdhanAs post jnAna also. This is what is
> undertaken in vidvat sanyAsa post attainment of jnAna. And can lead to
> jIvanmukti.
> >  vidvat sannyasa is not a vidhi that needs to be undertaken to get the
> mukti.  Karma saMnyAsa happens automatically to the jnAni.  Sri SSS says in
> Kannada 'ONagida tengina gari biddu hOguvante, jnAniya karma sannyasa
> svabhAvikavAgi aaguttade.  Edu jnAnige vidhi allave alla.  ( rough
> translation : like a dried branch of coconut tree falls on its own, karma
> saMnyAsa happens naturally on its own in the jnAni,  it is (vidvat
> saMnyAsa) not an injunction to him).  Moreover, as we have discussed
> earlier a paripUrNa Atmaikatva jnAni is dOsha vinirmukta and krutakrutya,
> the realization of his svarUpa jnana itself mOksha / mukti as there is no
> gap between jnana and his mukti.
> All the same, even without such specific sAdhanAs or vidvat sanyAsa, the
> jnAni is assured of escape rom rebirth after the current sharIra is givenup.
> >  ataH na kartavya sheshatvena brahmOpadeshO yuktaH, shrutayaH
> brahmavidhAnantaraM mOkshaM darshayantyaH "madhye kAryAntaraM vArayanti",
> tasmAt ehaiva brahmaiva san brahmApyeti na shareera pAtOttara kAlaM
> clarifies bhAshyakAra because ashareeratvaM is svAbhAvika dharma of Atma.
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar

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