[Advaita-l] On the need for the jivanmukta to "act"

[H S Chandramouli]

Reg  <<Anyway, coming back to issue above, there is a reference in sUtra
bhAshya with reference to gradations in mukta jeeva-s, those jeeva-s in the
elite  club have the special privilege to incarnate again to uplift the
jeeva-s still in ajnAna, the instruction they would get with regard to this
is from svayaM 'paramAtma'.  Other ordinary mukta jeeva-s after realization
will not get rebirth.  This apAntaratama-s like jeeva-s would drag their
remaining prArabdha to incarnate as per the instructions from paramAtma.
So, ultimate decision taking authority with regard to subsequent janma-s of
certain jeeva-s pertains to 'paramAtma'.  Here in the above case, it is
paramAtma's (narasiMha)  instruction to prahlAda (the mukta jeeva) to
continue to rule the world.  And in next janma hanumanta, then as Bheema
sena ( one among pAndava-s) and then madhvA if I am right according to
madhva sampradaya [image: 😊]   In short what does it tell us in upa
siddhAnta ??  Even after paripUrNa jnana jeeva-s would continue to maintain
different gradations, some are elevated ones and some others are normal
ones.  The elevated ones still have to obey the instructions of paramAtma
the supreme commander of all types of jeeva who is karmAdhyaksha and karma
phala dAta.  Whether this is dvaita or Advaita !!??  I leave it to your
discretion >>,



What a conclusion !!!  Equating specifically mentioned exceptions in
advaita  sidhanta with  the  universally applicable conclusion of Dvaita
sidhantas.  Unfortunate to say the least, coming as it does from one who
has studied advaita sidhanta for decades.



Regards

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:17 PM Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Kameshwara Rao prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> Although in the sited example of 'Prahlada', Ultimately he is kings son,
> he has to rule the underworld as a duty, so vishnu might have instructed
> him to do so although he is liberated at that moment.
> My interpretation in this case : Since in one way he is responsible for
> his father's  i.e Hiranyakasipa's death (what ever may be the reason).
> Although Hiranyakasipa praised his son after seeing vishnu in the
> narasimha-rupa. In simple terms, both Prahlada & Hiranyakasipa share the
> same sukshma sarira (being the father  & son) , Prahlada was liberated at
> that moment with that body but he got that from his father. In one way or
> other little sin might be adhered to him for the responsibility of his
> father's death. So 'Vishnu' being the superpower may  be keeping this point
> in mind, might have instructed 'Prahlada' to rule the underworld so that he
> can get ridd off anything which is accumulated.
> I don't know my words rightly placed or not or to comment on
> 'Bhagavattoma-Prahlada' , just i thought like this by seeing the entire
> scenario.
>
> >  Just on the lighter side, you have used the word 'underworld' twice, my
> mind influenced by seeing Kannada  films, started to wonder how parama
> bhagavatOttama prahlAda could become an underworld king that too with god's
> grace 😊  Anyway, coming back to issue above, there is a reference in sUtra
> bhAshya with reference to gradations in mukta jeeva-s, those jeeva-s in the
> elite  club have the special privilege to incarnate again to uplift the
> jeeva-s still in ajnAna, the instruction they would get with regard to this
> is from svayaM 'paramAtma'.  Other ordinary mukta jeeva-s after realization
> will not get rebirth.  This apAntaratama-s like jeeva-s would drag their
> remaining prArabdha to incarnate as per the instructions from paramAtma.
> So, ultimate decision taking authority with regard to subsequent janma-s of
> certain jeeva-s pertains to 'paramAtma'.  Here in the above case, it is
> paramAtma's (narasiMha)  instruction to prahlAda (the mukta jeeva) to
> continue to rule the world.  And in next janma hanumanta, then as Bheema
> sena ( one among pAndava-s) and then madhvA if I am right according to
> madhva sampradaya 😊   In short what does it tell us in upa siddhAnta ??
> Even after paripUrNa jnana jeeva-s would continue to maintain different
> gradations, some are elevated ones and some others are normal ones.  The
> elevated ones still have to obey the instructions of paramAtma the supreme
> commander of all types of jeeva who is karmAdhyaksha and karma phala dAta.
> Whether this is dvaita or Advaita !!??  I leave it to your discretion.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
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