[Advaita-l] Have you seen God?

[Anand N]

Thank you for the clarification, subbuji!



On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:07, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:11 PM Anand N via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> Namaste Bhaskarji,
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>> When I was referring to Vedanta literature reference, I meant, if for
>> example -
>> The student who is learning about the Self under the Guru in the Upanishad
>> literature, asks the Guru directly, if he has realised himself.
>> I'm just curious to know if such a direct question to the Guru from the
>> student existed and what the answer given by the Guru was.
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> In the Upanishads, it is always the case of the aspirant approaching a
> self-realized Guru.  Even though this adjective is not explicitly given,
> the default understanding is: When a Guru in the Upanishad teaches
> Atma/Brahma Vidya, and the disciple is most of the times explicitly stated
> to have secured the liberating knowledge as a result of the teaching, the
> Guru is a Self-realized one. Sri Vidyaranya argues and establishes so in
> the Jivanmukti Viveka.
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> In the Bhuma Vidya of Chandogya, Narada approaches Sanatkumara and says: I
> have heard from exalted ones like you that 'the knower of the Self crosses
> over misery.'
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> So, in the Upanishads, there is no need for the aspirant asking that
> question to the Acharya he approaches. In the Bh.Gita Krishna says: Seek to
> know That thru humility, service, etc. and the Jnani-s will teach you.
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> In Brihadaranyaka it is said:  People throng to Janaka to get this Vidya.
> So, Janaka is already so famous as a Knower that people go to him. Vyasa
> sends Shuka his son to Janaka for a final-stage upadesha.  So, generally
> the Teachers are well known as Realized persons.
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> regards
> subbu
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