[Advaita-l] Tattvabodha of Adi Sankaracharya - 10

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste.

In respect of  << tvacho vAyuH >>, BUB 2-4-11 reads as follows

<< ……. यथा अयं दृष्टान्तः, एवं सर्वेषां स्पर्शानां
मृदुकर्कशकठिनपिच्छिलादीनां वायोरात्मभूतानां त्वक् एकायनम्………..>>,

<< ………yathA ayaM dRRiShTAntaH, evaM sarveShAM sparshAnAM
mRRidukarkashakaThinapichChilAdInAM vAyorAtmabhUtAnAM tvak ekAyanam………>>
Regards

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:35 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Aitareya Up 1-2-4
>
> << अग्निर्वाग्भूत्वा मुखं प्राविशद्वायुः प्राणो भूत्वा नासिके
> प्राविशदादित्यश्चक्षुर्भूत्वाक्षिणी प्राविशद्दिशः श्रोत्रं भूत्वा कर्णौ
> प्राविशन्नो >>
>
> << agnirvAgbhUtvA mukhaM prAvishadvAyuH prANo bhUtvA nAsike
> prAvishadAdityashchakShurbhUtvAkShiNI prAvishaddishaH shrotraM bhUtvA
> karNau prAvishanno........ >>
>
> Regards
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:28 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Raghav Ji,
>>
>> Namaste.
>>
>> Reg  << Although these are upAsya as far as Vedanta is concerned, I was
>> assuming there would be more details in the veda pUrva bhAga >>,
>>
>> Perhaps you can find their names and fields in the Kalpa Sutras as well
>> as pUjA vidhIs wherein various deities are invoked in the beginning.
>>
>> Reg  << What is the moola reference text for the list of adhidaivika
>> devatAs mentioned in the tattva bodha treatise? It looks like a collection
>> derived from multiple original vedic  mantras or perhaps their derivatives
>> such as the shrauta and grihya sutra meemAmsA texts >>,
>>
>> I agree. I am not aware of any single mantra or group of mantras at a
>> single location wherein such a list finds a place.However  they seem to be
>> covered at different places. For example, Aitareya Up 1-2-4 mentions
>> Agni,vAyu,Aditya and Dik  dEvatAs as the presiding deities for organs of
>> vAk (speech),ghrANa (smell),chakshus (sight) and shrOtra (hearing)
>> respectively. I have not checked on the others. I presume it should be
>> possible to locate them severally at different locations in the Shrutis.
>> But such a compilation is available in a number of other granthas apart
>> from Tatvabodha.
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 7:34 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <
>> raghavkumar00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Namaste ji
>>> Thank you for your mail sharing your understanding and the many
>>> references from BUB and BSB , Chandramouli ji. I shall carefully study
>>> them.
>>>
>>> I generally think of how a country is governed by having different
>>> provinces and districts etc with different administrators. And if we point
>>> to some small particular piece of land and ask who is in charge, we just
>>> assume it will fall in to one or the other jurisdictions. Sometimes I guess
>>> we may not always have the exact details.
>>>
>>> Even so every intelligent law or power or entity manifest in this jagat
>>> will have to fall in to the 'jurisdiction' of one or the other of the 33
>>> types of devata-s referred to in the veda.
>>>
>>> Although these are upAsya as far as Vedanta is concerned, I was assuming
>>> there would be more details in the veda pUrva bhAga.
>>>
>>> What is the moola reference text for the list of adhidaivika devatAs
>>> mentioned in the tattva bodha treatise? It looks like a collection derived
>>> from multiple original vedic  mantras or perhaps their derivatives such as
>>> the shrauta and grihya sutra meemAmsA texts.
>>>
>>> Thank you also to Subbuji for the vedic reference listing out
>>> sequentially many of the devatAs and their adhibhautika correlates. I
>>> especially noted Vishnu is mentioned somewhat differently in this mantra as
>>> parvata devatA and yama as prithvi devatA as in " यमः पृथिव्या"  वायुर्
>>> अन्तरिक्षस्य सूर्यो दिवश् चन्द्रमा नक्षत्राणाम् बृहस्पतिर् ब्रह्मणो मित्रः
>>> सत्यानां वरुणो ऽपाꣳ समुद्रः स्रोत्यानाम् अन्नꣳ साम्राज्यानाम् अधिपति तन्
>>> मावतु सोम ओषधीनाꣳ सविता प्रसवानाꣳ* रुद्रः पशूनां त्वष्टा रूपाणां
>>> "विष्णुः पर्वतानाम्"*
>>>
>>> Om
>>>
>>> Raghav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Mar, 2020, 7:11 PM H S Chandramouli, <
>>> hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Namaste Raghav Ji,
>>>>
>>>> Reg  << 1. Can we talk of there being adhiSThAna devatAs for other
>>>> entities
>>>> encountered in vyavahAra?. Such as planet earth as a whole (prithvI
>>>> devatA
>>>> surely), hills and mountains (maybe himavAn or some parvata devatA?),
>>>> viral
>>>> diseases such as small pox, herpes zoster, nCov-19 etc., (maybe various
>>>> female devata-s govern their arising and spreading as per the beliefs in
>>>> vogue in indian folk traditions?)>>,
>>>>
>>>> There is an elaborate discussion on Devatas in BUB 3-9-1 to 3-9-18.
>>>> Also BSB 1-3-26 to 1-3-33. Following is based on my broad understanding of
>>>> the same.
>>>>
>>>> All aspects of Creation, covering adhyAtmika/adhibhautika/adhidaivika,
>>>> are governed by adhiSThAna DevatAs. Though their number is countless, they
>>>> are categorized into and considered as manifestations of thirty three
>>>> entities, namely eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve  AdityAs, Indra and
>>>> Prajapathi. This number is further compressed successively to
>>>> six,three,two,one and a half, and one.
>>>>
>>>> Details concerning these 33/6/3/2/1.5/1 are covered in BUB referred
>>>> above. You may like to refer to the Bhashya itself for details. The purpose
>>>> of the discussion therein is not so much from the point of view of listing
>>>> their roles, but rather from the point of view of upAsana. As you know,
>>>> details concerning Creation per se is not given any importance in the
>>>> Upanishads. Its importance is mostly from the standpoint of upAsana.
>>>>
>>>>  Reg  << 2. What about devatA-s for modern "discoveries" such as the
>>>> power of
>>>> gravity which is such a huge cosmic determinant of the way things are in
>>>> this physical universe? Is there an adhidaivika aspect viz., a devata
>>>> for
>>>> gravity? >>,
>>>>
>>>> Surely yes. In fact the adhiSThAna devatA for apAna vAyu at the
>>>> adhyAtmika level is Vishvasrushta as given in Laghu Vasudeva Mananam.The
>>>> Devata for power of gravity is considered to be the same at the
>>>> adhibhautika level though I do not recollect right now where I had come
>>>> across this. The function of apAna vAyu is to " force down ".
>>>>
>>>> Reg  << 3.  If we examine the case of cosmic laws that govern the
>>>> energetic functioning of all stars, then the Sun itself is just a small
>>>> Star, one among billions. So can we assert that this vedic devatA revealed
>>>> as "sUrya" is the wielder of the samaShTi power behind all stars which
>>>> makes them function using fusion etc., the way they do, not only our Sun?
>>>> >>,
>>>>
>>>> I think a reference to BUB I have mentioned above should clarify this.
>>>>
>>>> It may be worthwhile emphasizing once again what I have stated above,
>>>> namely details concerning Creation per se is not given any importance in
>>>> the Upanishads. Its importance is mostly from the standpoint of upAsana.
>>>>
>>>>  Regards
>>>>
>>>>
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